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Originally Posted by JohnD
Gas availability is a problem for the dive this weekend, so I have to use what I have. I like to keep to an END of 40metres or PPN2 of 3.95, but this is what I have in my twin 12s (using the "rule of 1/3s). I personally would not use a 3litre for anything but a pony, not enough gas available using "rule of 1/2s" for deco for your buddy if he loses his. I will be using 7.5litre sideslungs, more gas available.
GARF, I cant work out the simulation mode on the dive manager software using multiple mixes, but I can do it using the Vytec itself as it changes to the next gas (at its max PO2 set) as you ascend.


The Gas Rules all look ok to me, Not that I stick to them , but I do like to have
plan A B and C

Plan A
Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Air, PPO2 1.107, END 43
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Air, PPO2 0.773, END 27
Deep Stop at 21m for 2:00 (32) on Air, PPO2 0.648, END 21
Deep Stop at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Air, PPO2 0.523, END 15
Norm Stop at 9m for 1:00 (36) on Air, PPO2 0.398, END 9
Norm Stop at 6m for 5:00 (41) on 100% Oxygen, PPO2 1.596, END 0
Norm Stop at 3m for 10:00 (50) on 100% Oxygen, PPO2 1.298, END 0

TOTAL DECO TIME: 22 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 50 minutes.
CNS Total: 25.6%

2655.0 Ltr. of 21.0% consumed. Twin 12L
241.7 Ltr. of 100.0% consumed. 3L cylinder
.

Bailout plan B
Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Air, PPO2 1.107, END 43
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Air, PPO2 0.773, END 27
Deep Stop at 21m for 2:00 (32) on Air, PPO2 0.648, END 21
Deep Stop at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Air, PPO2 0.523, END 15
Norm Stop at 9m for 1:00 (36) on Air, PPO2 0.398, END 9
Norm Stop at 6m for 10:00 (46) on Air, PPO2 0.335, END 6
Norm Stop at 3m for 26:00 (72) on Air, PPO2 0.273, END 3

Or buddy s o2 at 50mins Plan C

TOTAL DECO TIME: 43 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 71 minutes.
CNS Total: 12.0%

3247.8 Ltr. of 21.0% consumed. Twin 12L


A Pony may only be a pony to you , But to me its 600L or 695L of gas and in the case above it’s more than twice the quantity of gas that I need ,




Plan A
Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 1.370, END 40
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.957, END 25
Deep Stop at 21m for 2:00 (32) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.802, END 19
Deep Stop at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.647, END 13
Norm Stop at 6m for 3:00 (38) on 100% Oxygen, PPO2 1.596, END 0
Norm Stop at 3m for 9:00 (47) on 100% Oxygen, PPO2 1.298, END 0

TOTAL DECO TIME: 18 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 47 minutes.
CNS Total: 27.6%

2644.7 Ltr. of 26.0% consumed. Twin 12L
190.3 Ltr. of 100.0% consumed. 3L cylinder

Bail out plan B

Or buddy s o2 at 47mins plan C

Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 1.370, END 40
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.957, END 25
Deep Stop at 21m for 2:00 (32) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.802, END 19
Deep Stop at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.647, END 13
Norm Stop at 6m for 5:00 (41) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.415, END 5
Norm Stop at 3m for 20:00 (60) on Nitrox 26.0, PPO2 0.337, END 2

TOTAL DECO TIME: 31 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 60 minutes.

3046.8 Ltr. of 26.0% consumed. Twin 12L
2843Ltr if you go on buddy s o2
and a run time of round 53 mins



The dive on the gas you have ie 21% and 65%
the 36% I just can’t find a purpose for it, on this dive ,
you could drop it to 100 bar and top off with air get a nice 3rd bottom gas
run a longer bottom time ie 35 mins and still stay in within your gas rules

Dive
Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Air, PPO2 1.107, END 43
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Air, PPO2 0.773, END 27
Deep Stop at 18m for 2:00 (32) on Air, PPO2 0.585, END 18
Waypoint at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Nitrox 65.0, PPO2 1.618, END 1
Deep Stop at 12m for 2:00 (37) on Nitrox 65.0, PPO2 1.425, END 0
Norm Stop at 6m for 2:00 (40) on Nitrox 65.0, PPO2 1.037, END 0
Norm Stop at 3m for 13:00 (53) on Nitrox 65.0, PPO2 0.844, END 0

TOTAL DECO TIME: 21 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 53 minutes. Vytec over run +5 =58mins Vr3 ran at 55mins

2524.5 Ltr. of 21.0% consumed. Twin 12L
428.4 Ltr. of 65.0% consumed. 7 L cylinder
.
Bail out
Or buddy s 65% at 53nins

Waypoint at 43m for 25:00 (26) on Air, PPO2 1.107, END 43
Deep Stop at 27m for 2:00 (29) on Air, PPO2 0.773, END 27
Deep Stop at 21m for 2:00 (32) on Air, PPO2 0.648, END 21
Deep Stop at 15m for 2:00 (35) on Air, PPO2 0.523, END 15
Norm Stop at 9m for 1:00 (36) on Air, PPO2 0.398, END 9
Norm Stop at 6m for 10:00 (46) on Air, PPO2 0.335, END 6
Norm Stop at 3m for 26:00 (72) on Air, PPO2 0.273, END 3

TOTAL DECO TIME: 43 minutes.
DIVE RUN TIME: 71 minutes. Vytec over run + 9 = 80mins Vr3 ran at 75mins
3247.8 Ltr. of 21.0% consumed. Twin 12L
less if you get your buddy s 65%



The Vytec / VR3 over run, You would pull That Back as you deco on the fly
Vr3 deep stop 28m 0% Conservatism Zplan deep stop 27m on 10% Conservatism
DDplan 24m Deco planner 24m both on GFlo20% GFhi80%
So take your pick ,
I Think all the above meet your gas rules ,
bottom Rmv 16 deco Rmv 12 , My Rmv
Don’t know if you’ slurp or gulp the gas , so run your numbers ,

Hope this is of some help Have fun and enjoy your dive ,
,
Ps
Next time you see a pony don’t think it’s a donkey , it’s only a donkey when it’s full of 50% nitrox or less Ha I am in for it now,


Steve G,


Most days full sh:t as you can see .
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