Creative - better than iPod - at least the software was, or iPod wouldn't have made a hooky copy of it
Cheaper, get the Zen Micro and the batteries are replaceable so you don't have to bin the whole thing whent he battery dies. 6Gb is waaaay enough for most people, especially if you convert the music to the smaller files. Even as MP3 you are talking hundreds and hundreds of tracks and podcasts.