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Old 02-09-03, 05:29 PM
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Quote[/b] (Lanny @ Sep. 02 2003,12:07)]
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Quote[/b] ]If you are incapable of monitoring your gas supply then you should not be diving and definitely should not be technical diving.  Looking at your depth gauge regularly is BSAC OD/PADI OW stuff.  If you are on deep air or on a too lean mix then the narcosis may impair your ability to remember to look at your gauges, so don't dive deep air and dive the right mix for the depth.
Oh no not the 'I am perfict and never make a mistake aproach to diving '

Sorry, I am not perfict and do make mistakes.

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Quote[/b] ]Again, if you are diving thirds and your shutdowns are rapid enough, then you should have enough gas to get you to your first gas switch, without even counting your buddy's gas supply.  Even if you lose a lot of gas, I would not have a massive problem with busting some of my deep stops and extending my stops above 21m, in particular my 6m O2 stop.  This is where your ingrained knowledge of deco (or the stuff written in your wet notes!) pays dividends.
I dont dive wreck dives on rule of thirds and neither do any of the other divers in my group. Bottom mix is generaly used up on the bottom. Redundancy is usualy carried in additional deco gas and or travel gas and drop tanks.

A rule of thirds dive to 70m would limit me to 15-20mins on the bottom on a £200 dive. Blow that for a game of tennis.
Rule of thirds is overhead environment stuff.

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Quote[/b] ]The difference being that your twin set does not extend out beyond the width of your shoulders and your canister torch should be tucked away out of the slipstream under your right arm.  If I carry a reel it is on my butt D-ring and my spools are in my drysuit pockets - all out the way and not a line trap.  Deco or stage bottles are right in front of you and easily adjusted or disentangled, unlike a pony on the side of your twins, which is not.
Like I said if you are worried about it side sling it with the other stage bottles. I have never had a problem with it so i prefer to have it out of the way where it can not be confused with a stage.

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Quote[/b] ]This is a good example of piss-poor diving practices having tragic but easily avoidable consequences.
I quite agree but our individual choice of how to avoid it are diferent. I chose a system that is independent and totaly in MY control, and you chose a system which places trust in your buddy.

Your faith in human nature is far greater than my own. I have seen people do things way out of charictor in high stress situations and I have seen people turn into jibbering wrecks or freze when it hits the fan. You can never tell what a person would actualy do untill that person is subjected to the realiaty of the event.

If my buddy on the day it hits the fan turns out to be profesionisum its self I will be plesently surprised. If he /she turns out to be a jibbering wreck I will be alive to tell the tail.

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Mark Chase
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