[quote=Hickdive;869087]Lost me there, I don't live in Hull or even England, I live on top of a hill, in Scotland

And I've never put my car in a ditch.
My view is that all the anti 4x4 twaddle on eco grounds is nonsense because China builds a coal-fired power station every week. Taking every single 4x4 in the world and crushing it will produce a decrease in annual CO2 output that China will make up in about 30 seconds. China and India between them would probably make up the shortfall in 15 seconds.
But I do object to 4x4s on A roads because they are so slow and a complete bugger to see round to pass
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hmmm not with the tiptronic down shift in my new one
not specifically aimed at you but more at those who whine about 4x4s constantly without realising what they do. some tw@ts do own them mostly henrietta in kensington and tarquin in chelsea. I use mine for real as do 99% of people its that 1% that shag it for the rest of us
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