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Old 11-03-08, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scubee
In the US, to become a citizen you have to swear alegiance. The same is true for residency in Canada. I suspect it is also the case in many other countries in the world.
But isn't allegiance is sworn to their new country, not the monarch?

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Originally Posted by Scubee
One of the problems in this country is that no-one seems to care about 'being british'.
You're right, especially the Scotts and Welsh. I suspect that first generation immigrants cared quite deeply.

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Is it possible that this might be a way of getting people to view this as 'theirs' rather than viewing it in the same way as a tenant views their rented property - it isn't mine, so i don't have to care'.
That's exactly why the suggestion's been made. I suspect that it won't make the slightest difference. "Citzenship" classes in schools just might be the right thing though. One huge problem is that any meaningful solution will only show its efficacy after about 20 years and no politician is interested in a time-frame longer than one electoral cycle.

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Perhaps if people cared more about being british, it might be a better place to live.
You're right, depending on your definition of Britishness. Some of the most "pro-Britishness" posters here make me embarrassed to be British. However, the theoretical Britishness of tolerance and fair play is utterly laudable.
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