[SilvaFish]

Originally Posted by yellowduke

Well the days of accepting the Kings shilling whilst being drunk as a lord have gone so yes joining is voluntary. Having a large portion of your skull and brain tissue removed by a grenade isn't necessarily quite so voluntary, despite accepting the possibility of risk when you sign up.

Because there are those who do volunteer to serve it means that it is unnecessary to force the unwilling to do so. Perhaps you owe some thanks for that.

Jim

Yes, of course I owe thanks for that, and I do, or did have a few members of my family in the Forces. The point I was trying to make was people now become solders by choice, no one is forced into it; and hence <hopefully> knew the risks when signing up.

On the other side of the coin, endangered marine creatures are in that state, most probably not down to their choice, but down to humanity's hand?

But, whichever way the vote goes, I am willing to support either or both.

Cheers,
Lou

ps - can I have my back please?