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| Originally Posted by Mark Chase Its an interesting comment but what do we do about Ireland, Scotland, The Falklands etc? Should we hand them back to their rightfull rulers?
We handed Hong Kong back I suppose but that was just embarrassing seeing as we got it with British Govt backed drug money.
I wonder if the Boxers having attempted to over throw the British drug barons felt any more happy that they were slaughtered by the British Army than the Tibetens do about being slaughtered by the Chinese?
Genghis Kahn combined china and Tibet in the 1200's. He didn't create China FFS the great wall was started in 200bc which was 1400years before Genhgis. Just becaause the Ming era made it famous by laying bricks dosent meen it didnt exist till the 1300's
As I say I am willing to accept argumnet but id like at least a little pointer as to some relevent historical fact on this just so i can stop my wife laughing her head off.
ATB
Mark |
Hi Mark.
Ok, great wall. Built by in parts by succesive dynasties over a period of over 1100 years. China's history is one of disunity and seperateness. It is only for modern convenience that we refer to the area historically as 'China' . In reality it was an area with numerous separate rulers any one of which may have been the main ruler with others paying obeisance. Dynasties generally ended in unrest as one area fought for dominance over as many others as they could manage. There was hardly any period when one ruler coulod be said to have ruled over the entire region. Oh. Apart from Gengis. My point is that it was only under Gengis that there was any unity in 'China' and this didnt last long after his demise - 400 years max.
So for China now to pretend that China has always existed as we think of it today is a joke. One the Tibetans dont find funny.
Here's a start:
Dynasties in Chinese history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I dont for a minute intend to argue that we should beleive that China will give back Tibet - but we can use the issue to help raise awareness of the treatment of their minorities - and to put pressure on the UK Government to do so as well. And that is why you should sign up.
Mark, I dont expect your wife to stand up for her home country's treatment of the Falung Gong for instance, and why should she have to stand up for China's treatment of the Tibetans? On the other hand - she must at least be aware that there is something slightly amiss going on?
Best regards,
Oliver - TaM