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Old 19-04-08, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparky750
My view is anyone's welcome as long as they contribute, the free handouts should be linked to what you've put in IE if you've worked for 10 years (number out of the air) and are made redundant you are entitled to your wage for x amount of time while you find new job, that's how the benefit system should work and that includes a lot of so called English too.
If I were to add to this rainy afternoon's debate, this is the point I would make too. There is such a belief in "entitlement" and resentment among the work shy in this country. I spent years trying to get folk back to work who didn't want to go to work. It's not about money, it's about self repect and ethics. That seems to be what is lacking in a large cross section of our population.

There also seems to be a sense of "learned helplessness" and spite towards those that do work hard and do well, no matter where they come from. It's a very complex pychological/social problem and one with no simple answer.

There is not much point in being angry, you can't change the world unless you get into politics. And you may shorten our own life if you are continually cross and stressed.
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