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Old 24-04-08, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiona
I am sure the last sentence wasn't there when I went to quote you. I couldn't even work out what you were getting at but I suppose you mean which training system did I start with - I learned to dive with BSAC which I am sure you already know.
No I didn't and all i added was the question at the end on why you felt the GUE instructor telling you about buddy skills had more impact than the BSAC statement above?



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Tell me you don't trawl through various training agency manuals to try and make a point.

I didnt have to I know both books quite well and i knew the statemts were in there.

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Maybe over the years we get a little complacent with our skills, I have dived with a lot of people and there is a lot more emphasis on the team / buddies (what ever you want to call it) with GUE training. You are putting too much on the instructor element here Mark, my dive development has continued long after I left Vobster exactly 12 months ago.

Why can't you accept that for "most" people and it seems everyone except you have gained something from the course, Fin has mentioned how people have commented how his awareness skills have improved.

I gained a lot form the course but I didnt go for the rose tited glases option.

If GUE did an ECCR id be on it, and if I go back to OC Il dive full on GUE.

Not because the system is any better than IANTD TDI SAC or any other but purely because it attracts divers with my mind set. The same mind set I had long before I ever did a GUE course or read a GUE manual.

I had found simila divers to dive with who are not GUE but GUE seems to gather them all in the same place and make choosing a buddy much easier.

I also beleive standardisation makes for impreoved safety and i would be willing to sacrafice a lot of my personal preferances for the sake of those benifits.


Perhaps you should go back and read my first post again. I didn't say GUE was crap, I said do it 100% all the way or do not do it at all. There is nothing to be gained by cherry picking it. I stick by that because I don't want divers carrying a GUE cert and pretending to dive GUE who are not 100% behind the system and its standards.

Those standards are what sets it apart and nothing else.

ATB

Mark
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Mark, dispite the fact your a Heron shagging tosser I agree with you , Steve S 10/04/08
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Mark Chase


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Last edited by Mark Chase : 24-04-08 at 11:26 PM.
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