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Old 19-07-04, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by imported_andyp
As for the GUE courses. Mark, I am within an ace of discussing it with you. There was a comment made about how can we argue against something if we haven't done the course. Weeeeeellllllllll, I might consider not smokeing for 48 hours and give it a go if your up for it also.

Andrew
Now that would be no fun at all, cos then you'd be DIR and we'd have nothing to argue about

As far as the rescue course, I would have thought the PADI rescue diver was your best option (apart from having to wear a snorkel. Hideous )

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Originally Posted by chrisch
The idea of someone at 60m plus that cannot execute a simple controlled lift is scary.
Hmmm, think about this mate. If you find an unconscious diver at 60 mtrs it is then at least 6 mins before you reach the surface, even blowing off all of your deco and ascending at a speed guaranteed to get you and your casualty bent. An AGE for the casualty is also probable. 'Rescue' at this level is completely stacked against you. If there is a significant deco obligation it is recommended to try to resusitate them at depth with a reg, which is unlikely to succeed. Realistically the bottom line is that the controlled buoyant lift is not a realistic option.

With this kind of diving the emphasis is placed on not being in that situation in the first place and this is what a tech course should teach. This is why the GUE emphasis is on lower PO2 levels at depth to prevent a tox at depth, and proper tank marking and identification, to prevent the breathing of the wrong gas. Exceptional buddy skills and a kit config which is completely focussed on donating gas quickly and efficiently completes the philosophy. We are also taught to be extremely conservative with gas management and you can never have too much gas. Over and above all that is the main rule which is that we don't dive with unsafe divers, definitely not at that level. Most of the GUE rescue stuff is really about gas switching and toxing buddies, it is not about finding an out of air buddy and controlled buoyant lifts from 60 mtrs. With all due respect that is the shallow water answer. The GUE requirement is more about the surface rescue management than the underwater stuff

Andy
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