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BCDs / Wings: Discuss best wing for twin 7s? in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: Hang on a minute. While a larger bungied wing will squeeze air out if its got a fair bit of ...

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Hang on a minute.

While a larger bungied wing will squeeze air out if its got a fair bit of air in,
it's not going to do the same thing if its only got a bit.

So a large bungied with enough air to lift twin 7's will not be any more
risk then a smaller non-bungied designed for the job.

In this respect they are indentical.

The bungies are bad argument, only kicks in when we start to add large
ammounts of air.

Mind you having a range of wings is all bo**ocks to me anyway.
Been driving the same size Zeagle, with everything from a single pool 7
to twins and stage for years.
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The bungies are bad argument, only kicks in when we start to add large ammounts of air.
I agree with you to an extent .... if the bungees are loose then they won't squeeze the gas out ..... but if they are that loose, what's the point of having them?
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Depends on how tight you have the bungess.

Very tight - gas will tend to be forced out.

Not tight (note this isn't the same as loose) and gas will only be squeezed when the bladder is on the full side.

The purpose of the bungees is to tidy up any excess wing so that you can use a single larger wing with smaller twins or a single.

The OMS wings are horse-shoe shaped so would be okay in the scenario that you mentioned. The bungees are also all individulaly tied so that you can set the tension how you feel happy with (or take them off altogether).


Mal - if horseshoe shaped is the dogs danglies as far as DIR is concerned, why are the Halcyon Eclipse & Evolve wings doughnut shped, or is this just your own opinion?

By the way, I have no axe to grind either way as I have both OMS bungeed (horseshoe) and Halcyon wings (doughnut & horshoe) and do not have an issue with either.


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Frog Indigo. Nice compact wing that will do the job nicely IMO.

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Mal - if horseshoe shaped is the dogs danglies as far as DIR is concerned, why are the Halcyon Eclipse & Evolve wings doughnut shped, or is this just your own opinion?
My opinion.
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Any wing will do - since twin 7's will be fairly light you could opt for some lightweight/small one, or just buy one that will do you right up to whatever size you might be using in the future.

I use a Custom Divers TDB myself - lovely wing, does the job
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It depends on your motivation - whether you want the ideal solution for the configuration you have now, but is no use for other configurations if you change, or want to buy something that will "do" for multiple configurations. Neither approach is right or wrong, but the distinction in this motivation is what has caused all the fuss above.

There are wings designed for twinsets and wings designed for single tanks. All are good at what they do, and become a compromise when doing what they were not designed to do.

For the best solution, you are looking at something like a Halcyon Evolve 30. It's exactly the right length and width for twin 7's , will not wrap around the tanks, and has an appropriate lift size. You don't need a larger wing for this configuration. For a more general solution, that will be less than ideal, but will save you money as you can use it down the line if you change cylinders, go for a larger bungied wing as some have suggested.

So, your first decision has to be "Do I want the best solution for the kit I have now, or something that is less than ideal but a little more future proof".

I do have a strong opinion on the above, as everyone above does. but I thought it might be interesting to give you the full picture rather than just a personal opinion.
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It depends on your motivation - whether you want the ideal solution for the configuration you have now, but is no use for other configurations if you change, or want to buy something that will "do" for multiple configurations. Neither approach is right or wrong, but the distinction in this motivation is what has caused all the fuss above.

There are wings designed for twinsets and wings designed for single tanks. All are good at what they do, and become a compromise when doing what they were not designed to do.

For the best solution, you are looking at something like a Halcyon Evolve 30. It's exactly the right length and width for twin 7's , will not wrap around the tanks, and has an appropriate lift size. You don't need a larger wing for this configuration. For a more general solution, that will be less than ideal, but will save you money as you can use it down the line if you change cylinders, go for a larger bungied wing as some have suggested.

So, your first decision has to be "Do I want the best solution for the kit I have now, or something that is less than ideal but a little more future proof".

I do have a strong opinion on the above, as everyone above does. but I thought it might be interesting to give you the full picture rather than just a personal opinion.
In an ideal world I would have bought a wing just for the 7's. I will be getting twin 12's at some point but intend to keep diving both so the Midnight was the best compromise for me. If I was a richer man I'd have two wings

Cheers, Paul K
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