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BCDs / Wings: Discuss Which Wing? Bungeed or Not? in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: Un bungeed wings are best. All you need is a 25lb un bungeed for single tank diving A 40lb un-...

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Old 08-07-04, 10:37 PM
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Un bungeed wings are best.

All you need is a 25lb un bungeed for single tank diving

A 40lb un-bungeed for twin set diving

A 50lb un-bungeed for big twin set and steel stage diving

And then you have it all covered..


Alternatively you can get a bungeed wing that does all of the above


I chose to use a Custom divers bungeed wing with 60lb of lift. The bungee keep it all neat when I dive with single and a pony and the back plate and wing have three sets of slots in so I can dive twin independents using a simple set of cam bands. Very Very useful on overseas trips. I dive the rig on single one day and then rig twin 12s and three 10ltr stages the next and it copes with allllll of it.

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Bungee is frowned upon for several reasons but in truth all of them are lame excuses. I have crawled through a lot of shipwrecks and never found the bungee a problem. Trapped gas is also something I have never found a problem and the bungee squeezing the gas out of a gas leek in the wing theory is a joke. I have had a punctured wing and nothing exciting happened.
Oral inflation being restricted by the bungee is another chestnut. Again rubbish as I have tried and succeeded in inflating my wing just about every time I blow it up to clean it.

All in all if you want a wing for all seasons get a bungeed one. If you want a task specific wing there is no need for bungee just get the size right.

I recommend the TDB from Custom Divers because it works and it’s very very flexible in what it can do. The harness is a matter of personal taste but the back plate and wing are great.

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Hi H,

I have a Custom Divers TDB wing with Bungees... I went for the Single piece harness, but after a year of messing, I decided it wasn't for me....

I have now reverted to my own version of the orignal CD Harness.....

Works nicely for me!

The only issue I have is that I manage to loose the inflator on some entries, but I think that a little bungee should sort that out!

I have heard stories about CD wings being uncomfortable...not noticed it myself, but then I use the CD mushroom nuts and not the butterfly nuts to attach the wing to the twin.....

Speak to you soon....
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I use...

I have a dive rite dual rec in a backplate and single piece harness - very comfortable to dive you can get the D rings exactley where you want them only down side is rolling arround on the surface trying to get out of it and on to a RIB.

I have just upgraded to the supper wing with a Transpac harness as I scared my self not having enough lift (another story before I digress) - This has all the lift you could ever need but the harness is taking some getting used to. I can't adjust it as much as I'd like and it is not as "figgure hugging" as I'm used to - every thing seams to be further away!

I've not tried using a single tank with either of these configs but have been told the large wing is too large for a single. I have also replaced the Bungie with Surgical tubing as it makes the wing easier to inflate oraly over the origional bungie


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OMS 100lb single bladder bungied as others have said aids deflation and is also very useful to tuck hoses thru when you decide to invert
Horses for courses... H you have seen mine... I like the bungees, they make dumping air out of the wing easier and also give me something to tuck my long hose away in.

I know I dont NEED 100lb of lift just now but I really like being able to inflate my own lilo/airchair when i get on the surface. With it being bungied it doesnt matter that it's a large wing. You do see a lot of unbungied wings flapping underwater... I really dont know if this is a problem or not.

Anyhow, babe, you know you are welcome to try mine out anytime..

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You've seen my rig, OMS, bungied and as big as they come, Jules's rig is the same but without the IQ pack, Jay's is either like mine or Jules's, need I go on...
Same here and I like it as Jules says nice lilo at the surface just lie back and think , now where's that boat, Oh, who cares
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I use a DiveRite SuperWing with my twin 12s. Ok, its a bit over large for the twins on their own but by the time I add a stage its getting into slightly more sensible country

I really don't follow the bungies are good/bad argument. If you are using your suit to compensate for the air compression (and hence loss of buoyancy) then a damaged wing under the water doesn't really matter. The issue comes when you get to the surface and try and remain afloat! Yes, some people say you could use your suit but I'd rather reply on a backup bladder or, worse case scenario, use my inflated blob as a buoyancy aid. The argument that an unbungied wing causes drag is also touted as a reason for/against bungies but the drag really is minimal if you bother to measure it.

If I were in your position I think about the style of diving you plan to do and try as many wings as possible. Sorry to say it, but wing choice is a personal thing; at the end of the day and the pros and cons of bungies are something you you will weigh up and descide upon for yourself.
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OMS single bladder bungeed 100lb wing with IQ pack - v comfy to wear and much better to lug about a t/set in than I thought it would be. No sag pockets offer a lot of space but the clip to the chest D rings is annoying and get in my way when getting out of the rig.

Also, anyone else with no-sag pockets find them hard to get to if you stick them on the belt/cummerbund where they should go (i.e. right at the sides) ?
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Hi guys,

Just wanted to thank you all for your input... at some point this summer I'll be putting it to good use!

Cheers for taking the time to put finger to keyboard

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Bungees too loose...?

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My biggest problem with a bungied wing is that it is designed to deflate itself.....

I always understood that the bungees were to asist in it's deflation, but in all honesty I don't think it happens with mine. There's very little air in the wing most of the time, which may account for it as I prefer to use the D/S for bouyancy.

Are the bungees likely to be too loose, or is it that I just never get enough air in to bag for the bungees to squeeze it out??
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