Which Wing & Why?

[Dan]

Currently using c/d TDB with c/d plate and harness of my own design however I am about to go over to the dark side and change the wing to a cough*halcyon and use it with my current plate and harness for uk diving and kept the TDB for trips abroad because you cant twin up using cam-bands with the halcyon like you can with the TDB which is a major failing on halcyon's part IMO

[Davey Willo]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (dan @ Jan. 30 2004,19:15)]because you cant twin up using cam-bands with the halcyon like you can with the TDB which is a major failing on halcyon's part IMO

Not really Dan, cam bands are not seen as a good idea for twins as they can stress a manifold..  I imagine that is the reason why Halcyon only give the option of bolting onto S.S. bands

[Mark Chase]

Obviously CD wing and CD back plate and harnes.

When the harnes wears out I will re rig it in the same way Dan does his and see how it goes. It looked like a neet idea that overcame all the down sides of the one-piece for me and obviously it is a lot cheeper than getting a new CD rig. Mind you I dont like crotch straps (I dont need to use one with the CD) so the one piece might not work, we shall see.

I probably will get the Halcyon single tank wing for my wife as Andy dosent apear too chuffed with the Dive Rite option I had considered.

If I had to get another wing tomorow I would still get the CD TDB not for its performance which I guess is about as good or bad as any other quality wing, but due to its abuility to cope with just about any set of tanks on the back using simple cam bands.

ATB

Mark Chase

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Dave Williamson @ Jan. 30 2004,19:54)]

Not really Dan, cam bands are not seen as a good idea for twins as they can stress a manifold..  I imagine that is the reason why Halcyon only give the option of bolting onto S.S. bands

Dan probably ment indipendent twins

That said The sets offered in Dahab didnt fit my wing as the bolts were too long. One option was to turn the set backwards and cam band it on which was made possable by the swivel turrets on the Apex I use.  In the end we packed the wing out with washers.

When Dan and I went to Gozo there was no option of twin sets. So to do the deeper dives we ran twin independant 10's using cam bands to hold them on.

Same was true in Egypt last year.

ATB

Mark Chase

[Scuba1]

<font color='#000080'>I use a Divesystem MOD 40+40 &nbsp;with SS Backplate and Harness by the same company.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]cam bands are not seen as a good idea for twins as they can stress a manifold

Not manifolded just independents. Manifolded twins are not the norm at most holiday dive centres so one has to settle for independents and as weight is a major issue with some airlines cams-bands are a better option than taking s/s bands with you. The c/d back plate is of such a  good design you can twin up independents no problems using cam-bands. I use a single long cam-band to twin up with while on holiday and it works a treat. In Gozo last year with Mark we were having to jump of cliffs, rock climb and all sorts of wierd and wonderful entries and exits and we were doing 50-60m dives and the twins didn't move an inch because of the shape of the c/d plate. I cant see why halcyon don't have slots for bands, I know its not the DIR way but halcyon do sell non-dir kit and just because they are there doesn't mean you have to use them. They don't seem to have a problem with having cambands for single tanks why not twins.

[Mary]

<font color='#F52887'>Wing from a sherwood outback (bungied, 60lb lift - far more than I will ever need), SS &quot;nigel&quot; BP and homemade harness.

[David Wallace]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (dan @ Jan. 30 2004,19:15)]Currently using c/d TDB with c/d plate and harness of my own design however I am about to go over to the dark side and change the wing to a cough*halcyon and use it with my current plate and harness for uk diving and kept the TDB for trips abroad because you cant twin up using cam-bands with the halcyon like you can with the TDB which is a major failing on halcyon's part IMO

Dan,

I used to have the same problem and have invented a small mod to buddy bands which allow you to sue the wing in dndependants using the bolt and wing nuts


Will post a pic in the morning (when I can find the camera)

Regards

[Andy the Coastie]

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Buddy trident - the only thing to fit a short fat arsed woman well and comfortably i found......

Thats why i stayed with mine .. Prog ,,, coz me is a short arse

[Rob Evans]

Buddy Tekwing &amp; harness, cos that's what comes with the breather. Don't even TALK to me about single loop, you've never seen so many fastex clips in yer entire life. Still, no bother with it, though I'm looking at a BP now.
For hols etc still got me ol' Scubapro XTec Rec wing &amp; harness - very similar to TPII - always served me well on twin 10s &amp; slings. Got mates who use their with 12s &amp; slings but I'd prefer a backplate for that sort of thing.