Inverted Twins - Cave Agencies

[Howard Payne]

Oh Nigel - you don't know what your missing - we have "super intelligent people who can argue for hours about the most minute sh*t" like you can't even begin to imagine in DIR-UK. Some of them swap sides half way through an arguement just for the sport

Gotta go do some work folks but "You are always on my mind"

Uh-huh

[JasonP]

Originally Posted by nigelH

I really don't see this moral stance that some people take against inverts. The only real argument that I hear is that you can't do the 'ordained by God' style air share. Right. So do it differently. Only amateurs do it this way.

I don't have a problem with them in OW or wrecks. However, I think they're a bad idea in caves. And I'm not the only one.

"You could fabricate a cave rig with a nine foot (3m) hose to use with inverted tanks but that would rapidly become an entanglement hazard. "

Look familiar

Jason

[scuba g]

So sidemounts it is then!

[nigelH]

Originally Posted by JasonP

"You could fabricate a cave rig with a nine foot (3m) hose to use with inverted tanks but that would rapidly become an entanglement hazard."

No. That's buying the DIR "only way to do it" line.

Three meter hoses are silly and I'm not so sure about two and a bit meter ones if we're talking entanglement unfriendly environments. How long a hose do you need so that the donor's ears aren't in the cusp of a frog kick?

Hand over a side mount is ideal but if you're diving with me on my inverts stuff my five foot hose in your mouth, grab the bull bars and, since it's too tight to swim alongside, I'm probably hand-walking us out. If you fin you'll probably push me and I'll steer.

At this point somebody says 'How do you know they're there?' and I ROTFL. The feeling is not to be described in a forum that is family reading. Mal would have to wipe me straight out for naughtiness.

[JasonP]

Originally Posted by nigelH

No. That's buying the DIR "only way to do it" line.

Originally Posted by nigelH

Hand over a side mount is ideal but if you're diving with me on my inverts stuff my five foot hose in your mouth, grab the bull bars and, since it's too tight to swim alongside, I'm probably hand-walking us out. If you fin you'll probably push me and I'll steer.

This isn't going to work. You need one hand to protect your face. You need another to hold onto the line. You don't have a hand free to grab onto those line trap bull bars.

And having donating air to the person at the back is dangerous. You won't know they're there or not. You're wiggling thru restrictions. You can't see a thing. You're trying to get out as quickly as possible. In your scenario, there's no physical contact between the two people, so how are you going to know if you've pulled the reg out of their mouth when you got to a big bit just as they got to a bit they got stuck on?

You might realise very quickly, but it could well be too late by then.


Jason

[neilh]

Originally Posted by nigelH

At this point somebody says 'How do you know they're there?' and I ROTFL.

No matter which way up your cylinders are if I'm behind you on your long hose I'll be making damn sure I'm there

[James The Badger]

Originally Posted by neilh

No matter which way up your cylinders are if I'm behind you on your long hose I'll be making damn sure I'm there

Alternatively you could just tap your heels togther three times and repeat "I wish I was home"
Frankly I know which option I would take given the two..

[Howard Payne]

Hand over a side mount is ideal but if you're diving with me on my inverts stuff my five foot hose in your mouth, grab the bull bars and, since it's too tight to swim alongside, I'm probably hand-walking us out. If you fin you'll probably push me and I'll steer.

Gotta get you up to Gracelands for the weekend Nigel baby - you sound like "A Hunk A Hunk A Burning Love"

Cummin out of a cave in touch contact - well thats what we normally call driving the train baby. Sounds like you got your self a "Mystery Train" there fella.

I'm off for mah 16th peanut butter and jelly sandwich of the day, people, "Don't be Cruel" to each other now, you hear? Uh-huh

[James The Badger]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Gotta get you up to Gracelands for the weekend Nigel baby - you sound like "A Hunk A Hunk A Burning Love"

Cummin out of a cave in touch contact - well thats what we normally call driving the train baby. Sounds like you got your self a "Mystery Train" there fella.

I'm off for mah 16th peanut butter and jelly sandwich of the day, people, "Don't be Cruel" to each other now, you hear? Uh-huh

Howard, is there some medication you should be taking dear? Or has this thread finaly shoved you over the edge? No one feed him booze at the weekend!!

[Howard Payne]

*Licks window furiously and shouts at passing cars*