Is cave diving really only for strokes?

[divingniknaks]

Originally Posted by Tunicates are Mad

....er......ahem....yes....... Fumblies.



I knew that.

.............That course is £300 though.

If that's for 4 days , count me in

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[big_si]

Originally Posted by divingniknaks

If that's for 4 days , count me in

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It's going to cost you a lot lot LOT more if you want me to Fumblies with you for 4 days phill!!!!

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Adly

I have been thinking recently about this THING.

DIR is my chosen method of diving (although I don't like what it's called). Because of this, I have more or less cancelled every single ccr class I was about to take. In one case I even lost a deposit.
The reason being that I am totally unable to think on a different wave length about diving (strong is the power of the dark side). Therefore, CCR is just out of reach to my mind.

One of the main reasons behind this is the statement "the risk outweighs the benefit".

I would like to promote the possibility that the same is true about cave diving.
The reason for this being that I and I mean IMHO I find very little benefit emerging from the caves apart from when JJ pulls one of his death defying dives and proves that you CAN actually survive such an ordeal (with balls of solid brass of course)

Mind you, I truly do appreciate one benefit from cave diving which WAS [and I mean WAS] that it was JJ's way of developing a system for all of us. I bet he almost killed himself doing it, but as far as I know the man a lot of his honest intension was making diving safer.
But as I stated, that WAS done.

My main understanding is that cave diving is "exciting" and "fun". But for what purpose is the very long penetrations that put one's life in danger?
So is it an adrenaline sport? Because if so.... then by DIR's own defenition "the risk of cave diving outweighs the benefit". Better spend your money and energy whatching fish (much less risky).

I really would like the opinions from both DIR divers AND non dir cave divers. I personally will not answer anything here to pre-emt the obvious . If anyone has any questions, please adress me through PM.

I thought you had spent time in the company of JJ and his buddies on the WKPP? Did they strike you as adrenalin junkies or explorers with his interest in geology and aquifers ?

BTW is it possible to maintain an adrenalin supply for 27 hours?
Mal

[GLOC]

Originally Posted by divingniknaks

If that's for 4 days , count me in

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Well, you are never in the water diving, so it would have to be a Fumblies course for you

Come on Phill, when are you going diving? And when are you doing Fundies...?

[neilh]

Originally Posted by GLOC

Come on Phill, when are you going diving? And when are you doing Fundies...?

He's already been there and done that Gareth

[Drmike]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Adly

I really would like the opinions from both DIR divers AND non dir cave divers. .

Every single corner of every single wreck has been designed by a human mind seen with human eyes, touched with human hands. Hundreds of people have walked its corridors, slept in its berths crapped in its heads. You can view blueprints of many ships before you dive them, you can often view pictures of them read stories about them, talk to people that worked on them or even built them.

But anyone with a redundant air supply a reel and enough curiosity can explore something no human has seen before,can travel where no human has ever travelled can enlarge our knowldege of our natural world, can answer geological riddles and mysteries.


Personally I think theres a stronger argument that wreck diving makes no sense
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For me wreck diving is a visitation whereas cave diving is a journey and if its a virgin cave thats a journey of the purest most unadulterated discovery