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<font color='#000080'>I know that with DIR, you carry all stages on the LH side so that nothing interferes with the long hose deployment. &nbsp;

How do you carry more than one stage, do you clip them all into the shoulder and hip d-rings, or do you clip them onto each other.

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<font color='#000080'>Hi

Shoulder and Hip Drings, usually two at the most, using the butt Dring for a third (for an ocean dive plan with AL80 stage of bottom gas, 50% and then a smaller AL40 of 100%), or if you are taking more for staging in a cave they are noseclipped to a leash attached to the hip Dring.

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Why do you want a stage of bottom gas?
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Quote[/b] (Dominic @ Mar. 16 2004,09:30)]Why do you want a stage of bottom gas?
They breath the stage and use the twin set as reserve.

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@7m in Wraysbury &nbsp;

Did the dive on a 7ltr stage of 32% and had a twin set of trimix just in case

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Quote[/b] ]Why do you want a stage of bottom gas?
Hi Dom,

I'm not certain but my understanding is that you breathe stages for bottom gas and have your back gas in reserve. I'm training for Tech 1 though and not that advanced, but I'm sure someone else will be able to confirm this (or correct me   )

EDIT: Sorry Mark, you beat me to it!

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Quote[/b] ]Did the dive on a 7ltr stage of 32% and had a twin set of trimix just in case
Well, you don't want to risk narcosis at those kind of depths

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I heard something to that effect before, come to think of it.. don't see the logic, so I hope somebody does clarify it..
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For the sort of diving we are doing, it's unlikely that we'll be carrying more than three stages, normally two.  Two stages can be clipped between hip and chest d-rings.  I like to have the O2 on top of the 50%, some prefer to have the 50% on top of the O2.  The third stage can be nose clipped to the left d-ring.  I've done this before on double stage cave dives.  You don't carry the third stage very far as that would be the O2 which would be dropped at 6m anyway.

We have some three deco gas dives planned for later in the year.  For those I would carry the 36m and 21m bottles between hip and chest d-rings and just nose clip the 6m bottle (the O2).  Neutrally buoyant cylinders are a god-send in these situations.

If you are lugging stages around you can use one of these stage loop  I've seen people carrying about a dozen stages with one of those!
The left d-ring can get a bit &quot;busy&quot; though.

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<font color='#000080'>Is it me or the buy that wrote this site a bit too aggressive about the whole thing? He's being very forceful, I don't know what the funeral bit is about, but if that is a guy in the box, I'd be a little put out as a relative. Tell me they're joking about that one.

He also preaches about the DIR thing, and then has images using A-clamp regs on stages, which as far as I know isn't exactly DIR, and I'm not sure the, as he puts it &quot;a cheap sea-elite mounted on a 6&quot; hose&quot;, is Doing it Right.

Just my impression of it, but this guy is making you lot look bad, and he comes across as very arrogant, and I can't see why.

Sorry to have a pop, it's at him not DIR, and I don't like it.
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Quote[/b] ]you breathe stages for bottom gas and have your back gas in reserve
I heard something to that effect before, come to think of it.. don't see the logic, so I hope somebody does clarify it..
I beleive the logic is that if it all hits the fan you can strip to minimum rig ie twin set and have maximum available gas to get out of the cave. Les drag more compact to get through small spaces

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Digger,

The way it reads is he is at that new and enthusiastic stage.
You know, talks a good dive.

I can see the logic of breathing the stage to save the twins, if your in trouble it makes much more sense to not have bottles clanking around.

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