CCR training route???

[mrbluediver]

Firstly I am new to YD so hello to all.
My long term goal is to dive CCR (Inspiration) what is the best training route to achieve this and how long would this take without rushing things?
I am trained on the Dolphin SCR but am told this has very little bearing on CCR training.
Would it be advisable to gain experiance on OC/Deco before CCR or jump straight to CCR and build from there?

Cheers. Mark Smith

[Rick Huggins]

I know nowt about nowt but dry dalesdiver on here aka Andy Hayhurst up in Sedburgh.

[nigelH]

Originally Posted by mrbluediver

Would it be advisable to gain experiance on OC/Deco before CCR or jump straight to CCR and build from there?

Staged training sounds great in theory but never really pays off. Learning one thing because it makes you more able to learn something else doesn't work. (I expect hate mail from Latin teachers for that comment.)

You need to be relaxed in the water, you get that by doing the hours on anything, you need to have your head round nitrox theory and be prepared to begin again on skills. I came up the 'classical' route with OC deco diving and it didn't really contribute much. A methodical, do it by the rules, attitude helps as does a compulsive attitude to maintenance. I spent the first part of the course trying to destroy old 'skills' and do things the CCR way.

nigelH

[jptaylor9]

Originally Posted by mrbluediver

I am trained on the Dolphin SCR but am told this has very little bearing on CCR training.

The TDI CCR Mod 1 manual for the Inspiration (Dave Crockford) says ideally you'll have done OC then SCR before moving onto CCR. But, most people jump from OC to CCR. He goes onto say that the electronics is the main area SCR divers will have to learn whereas OC the whole thing is new.

I'd think your SCR experience should be of some benifit. Don't know if you need Advanced Nitrox to dive the Dolphin?

Jonathan

[Rob Evans]

The SCR experience should be of help in terms of the bouyancy characteristics of CCR, but not a lot else carries over. A large proportion of the Mod1 course is given over to failure modes & electronics - there's no common ground between the two units in that respect. That said, it's not difficult. The vast majority of newly qualified YBOD types I've met have been seriously surprised by the simplicity of the thing compared to the image they'd built up in their minds..

Advanced Nitrox isn't required for the Dolphin - it's supposed to be for the YBOD, but I think it boils down to instructor's discretion in some cases.

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by mrbluediver

Firstly I am new to YD so hello to all.
My long term goal is to dive CCR (Inspiration) what is the best training route to achieve this and how long would this take without rushing things?
I am trained on the Dolphin SCR but am told this has very little bearing on CCR training.
Would it be advisable to gain experiance on OC/Deco before CCR or jump straight to CCR and build from there?

Cheers. Mark Smith

The best training rout is get confident in the water, Understand how to alter trim with weighting and then do Nitrox & TDI CCR Mod1 as a combined course.
Nothing else really matters. I would have thought that your past SCR experience would make the transition pretty easy.


I did everything up to Advanced Trimix before doing Mod 1 but it only helped in that I was comfortable being under stress and task loaded whilst being under water. How long it takes you to get from Mod 1 to Mod 2 is totally dependent on how much diving you do and how confident you fell. I already had Deco procedures so I skipped Mod 2 and started doing short deco dives straight after Mod 1. Mod 3 is Trimix and again this depends on how happy you feel in the water as to when you feel ready to go beyond air as a diluent.

Personally I find the inspiration frighteningly simple to dive. The provide assembly and checks are a little more effort than OC but the actual diving of the unit is no more complicated and possibly slightly easier. The error modes are simple enough too but doing them whilst hovering is a bit more of a challenge. The BIG thing with CCR is buoyancy and trim. Its a bit of a shock to be kicking up silt dragging your self across wrecks and winching yourself up on SMBs having mastered all that on OC.

The other thing that takes some learning is getting the dammed thing on and off

Have fun and I hope the course goes well

ATB

Mark Chase

[markscubawilliams]

Originally Posted by jptaylor9

I'd think your SCR experience should be of some benifit. Don't know if you need Advanced Nitrox to dive the Dolphin?

Jonathan

Nope you don't just normal nitrox
MarkW