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| Closed Circuit Rebreathers: Discuss Confessions of a Numpty CCR-diver... in the Rebreathers - General Information forums: Having logged 26 hours in the UK on the unit with 16 in the salty stuff and 10 in puddles ... |
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| Some interesting lessons there. The mouthpiece is a single point of loop integrity failure which is never checked using the standard +ve and -ve checks, I used to get a little water into the loop and couldn't work out where it was coming from, I tightened the Mouthpiece zip tie and I now get no unknown water in the loop. It's interesting you bring up the insufficient bailout issue. I was guilty of this when I was on my unit after the course, back in August - I did a big dive on the Rosalie Moller (45mins on the wreck between 40 and 50m) with only 3L of air to bailout onto. I only realised the possible problems of this after the event, and was suitably sobered. It is definitely easy to forget about bailout, if everything goes well, and the unit performs, you use so little gas, you start to think that you can go in with next to nothing. For the planning of deeper stuff, bailout is the thing I spend most time thinking about at the moment, either for OC or SCR uses. Perhaps there is some benefit in the concept of removing all OC bailout from the unit (no Autoair, no O2 reg) as it would force you to take something additional dedicated solely for bailout use - then the onboard could be even smaller, which I guess is kind of where the Evo has been targeted....
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| Hi Mark An honest and open report - nice one. The RB learning curve is a tricky bugger - it starts out feeling really steep, but then after around 15-20 hours it seems to flatten off... until you meet the next big step. There's a Rich Pyle quote that's something about being an expert after 20 hours, a novice after 100hours and a raw beginner after 500. As Padowan mentioned the mouthpiece is one of the areas that just isn't covered by +/- tests (along with internal o rings), which won't show up during a pre-breathe and which might take some time to manifest itself during the dive. Alpinism anyone ? |
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| Mark, As always your report are more than welcome, and something to really learn something from , and maybe keep me away from same errors.
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| Good honest report! Thanks Mark, with my course looming I have learnt from your experience. Paul
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| Never be afraid to admit your mistakes, especially to yourself. Hopefully others can learn by them. Do not concern yourself with those that take the opportunity to flame you. Just make sure you never make the same mistake again. Always fully prepare your aircraft before you take off. It's better to be down here wishing you were up there, than up there wishing you were down here. CCRs are the helicopters of the diving world. |
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| Thanks for this - I'm in the middle of my Mod 1 course and have 6 weeks or so before a warm water trip to build up some experience. So your report could have been personally designed for me. Cheers.
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| Thanks for an interesting read, I'm off to Sharm with mine on Sun, 23 hrs currently logged. I've found part of the answer to the weight limit problem - take an OC friend and use all their spare allowance. Plus Monarch airlines are giving me 25kg hold luggage and 5kg hand luggage. But I'm still having to get sodalime and cylinders out there. Mary S |
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| Newbie cockups so far... Loop flood: Dil Inflator unscrewed itself. Interesting experience and I reckon I have a drill now to use to recover from it, rather than bailing out. Good lesson learnt, this one, if only giving me confidence in handling the situation. Breathing Buddy Clean at depth: Horrible Fabric Conditioner taste, slightly caustic at depth. High WOB and racing through dil. Handsets (PO2) and Resp. rate OK so didn't bail. I changed slime for next dive but still got a minor taste. Lesson learnt here - it's good to have a clear head at depth. Logical thinking stops panic. I do rinse thoroughly but now recall squirting Buddy Clean into all the convoluted hoses. Yup, head-end ones too. Muppet! Rinsed these out carefully and vowed never to clean Box under the influence in future... The high WOB and racing dill was down to me subconsciously breathing the taste out through my nose. The ADV (a Bob) is set really hard, hence the perceived high WOB... To be continued... Last edited by Mdemon : 06-01-05 at 12:30 PM. Reason: Grammar, before I get pedanted... |
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| Good honest report Mark, thanks! P.S YBOD dosent stand for YBOD for no reason ![]()
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