What one ?????

[Janos]

Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

It isn't hard to add an offboard connection. I have a QC6 on a hose on my dil manifold.

Digressing slightly, (Sorry Milldog) but how do you dive this? I've thought about this a bit, and had considered a quick connect to the manifold. I would leave this disconnected under normal operation, and would have QC's on bailout tanks and possibly on a small O2 bottle mounted like an argon rig on my right.

I haven't done it yet as I'm not sure why I would need it as a) I carry enough bailout and b) I don't do massive (cave) penetrations so don't really need to go SCR. Having the ability to plug in offboard O2 would be nice though (I have the plastic manual add valve so need so losing all O2 is a (small) possibility)

Janos

[Marco Lattughi]

The inspiration classic is a good choice on a realistic budget I have added a couple of extra buttons on mine and have my sidemounts constantly plugged in on deep dives. I have replaced the harness and wing with a more simplistic and streamlined version, and removed the auto air as soon as it came out of the box, with the addition of a regulator on the inbord diluent.

I have also removed the weight pockets and added sheat of lead between wing and back casing to reduce front clutter.

The unit performs fine but if you like bullet proof engineering the inspiration is not the choice for you as it is delicate and requires care and attention, so the other option is the Boris which is great if you can afford it, or the Meg but you may loose time on a breakdown as it involves more shipping, and check the waiting list for delivery of the unit.

[wreckweasel]

janos,

Your kiss is newer and has the extra injection port. You can plumb in a QC via swagelock there, which eliminates all the nasty common failure points that Stuart has (with the exception of the red wine addled wetwear, common to both of you).

/Z

[NotDeadYet]

Janos,

I've PM'd you.

Can the second injection point be routed to the ADV rather than the O2 side? I'd rather run out of O2 than diluent.

As Mr S knows, I am too tight to waste money on diluent fills so having an offboard dil QC is better than taking a lungful from a stage and exhaling into the loop when my dil has run out. I can also have a load more gas to semi-close as I am too tight to go OC. Going OC also engages my fuck-me-I'm-going-to-die reflex so I'd rather avoid it.

Red wine is the only approved lubricant to be used on the rebreather controller...

[Woz]

Originally Posted by Padowan

A ramble of my feelings (I have a YBOD Classic and like it, it does everything I need)

YBOD:
I like the lazy automatic control but I'd like a HUD to use in conjunction with good handset monitoring skills.
I don't like the Inspo clutter, but to be honest I've got used to it.
I'd like better build quality.
I like the fact that you have auto and manual additions for both O2 and Dil.
I don't really like the Autoair (although it never failed), and replaced with with a Divematics DSV.
It's bulky to travel with, although not overcomable.
Lots of 2nd hand units around, and good spares support.

KISS
I like the KISS too, because if it's back mounted lungs, superior build quality and hydrodynamics.
I don't like the way that you can't easily dil flush on a KISS (yes you can exhale and fire the ADV, but it's not the same as a good flush).
Depth limitations on the KISS are easily circumnavigated if you know what you're doing (and for diving at depths outside the std KISS limits, you should really know what you're doing!)
Not brilliant water traps.
Scrubber packing a bit of a pain as you gotta put just the right amount of lime in.

Meg
Love the build quality and modularity, and ease for travel.
Has a HUD, anthough I think the flash sequencing is a little cumbersome.
Manual and automatic gas addition possibilities.
Like the ability to disconnect the solenoid feed.
Feel that the hose connections on top of the lid are a little vulnerable knowing my ferretting inclinations.
New radial scrubber option gives excellent deep/long possibilities.
Good flooded loop recovery ability

Boris
All singing all dancing, lots of toys
Radial donut design scrubber ala Mk15 good for really deep stuff
Very robust breathing loop
Clutterless front
HUD has lots of information
Expensive
Bugger to travel with

I'd have any of the above units, ideally I'd like more than one for different things, unit for UK wreck diving, unit for travelling, expedition unit etc etc.

I'm sure there are more things about these 4 units, but those are the things that are going through my mind when thinking about the units out there.

OK so out of that lot you'd like the spares and support and 2nd hand market from the inspo, the build quality and transportability of the Meg, scubber and HUD off the Boris, the hydrodynamics and simplicity of the KISS....

just if we whittle down all the best parts, we might end up with the "perfect" rebreather, which, given the time, inclination and account at a plumbers merchants, I might just make.

[Fathoms Down]

Originally Posted by Woz

just if we whittle down all the best parts, we might end up with the "perfect" rebreather, which, given the time, inclination and account at a plumbers merchants, I might just make.

Only if it has enough annoying faults to allow you to whine about them at every concievable opportunity and "fix" with parts you can buy off the Internet!

[Janos]

Originally Posted by wreckweasel

janos,

Your kiss is newer and has the extra injection port. You can plumb in a QC via swagelock there, which eliminates all the nasty common failure points that Stuart has (with the exception of the red wine addled wetwear, common to both of you).

I've started a new thread so as not to hijack this one.

Janos

[milldog]

i have looked at this and spoken to the nice man at Meg

i think it will be one of those!

[milldog]

anyone know of a good Meg instructor?

[The Doctor]

Originally Posted by milldog

i have looked at this and spoken to the nice man at Meg

i think it will be one of those!

T