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Old 28-08-06, 10:45 PM
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What one ?????

OK i have finally succumb to the CCR and i am now seriously looking for a CCR but which one every one i talk to regarding there CCR they say theres is the best. personally i like the inspiration (neat and tidy).

what have you got and why have you chosen your CCR

thanks in advance

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what have you got and why have you chosen your CCR
l went for the Pikey death box AKA Inspo classic, because like you l couldn't decide which one to go for, so l thought l'd buy a classic because they're cheaper and l could always sell it on without too much of a loss.

The main thing l don't like about the inspo is the front mounted counter lungs, but l've ordered Paul Channings s/s backplate which converts the inspo to back mounted lungs. So l'm looking forward to diving with a clear chest area again and being able to see the d rings.
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I dive a KISS.

The one thing you can't say about an inspo is that it's neat and tidy. The inspo is the drunk kebab of the rebreather world - it does a job very well, but it isn't pretty, and sometimes it goes wrong. But most of the time you'll survive it.

The KISS is depth limited which is my problem at the moment, I don't want to put in hours and hours of work on a unit which I'm going to have to change for big dives (that said 100m isn't just big, it's pretty massive, at least for me!) and requires the diver to pay attention to it during the dive more than any other unit I know of. If you can live with this it is very well made and despite my buggering about with it it's only been broken once, and that was by me! Parts incoming...

Personally if I was buying right now I would buy a Meg. No question. THey are like an inspo but well built, do what they're supposed to, and don't weigh 3 tons for flying them around.

If you're not planning to dive it out of driving range (which lets face it very few of us are) then the Boris would be my next choice.

Next on the list would be the mid-range breathers, the kind of thing most of us dive, largely because many of these designs either weren't out when we bought them or because they're not old enough to have much of a secondhand market. This is the Inspo and the KISS.

Other options available to you - Prism (not seen one yet but they seem to be popular in the states, and it probably won't be too long before we see some over here - but I wouldn't volunteer to be the first one to get one), An old MK15 (vintage choice, and more trouble than it's worth IMO, just get a Boris, same cost and UK support)

I think that's covered most of them. It's a decision only you can take really. You know what you want it for, and you know where your diving's going.

If you want to have a good look at the KISS I can take i down to Cornwall with me at the start of October, I'm free Monday to Friday, if there's somewhere you know of which is easy to get in and very shallow you could probably dive it (obviously on the understanding if you die it was nothign to do with me, and I'll abandon your corpse to prevent ending up in court!). PM me if you're about.

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Old 28-08-06, 11:03 PM
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l went for the Pikey death box AKA Inspo classic, because like you l couldn't decide which one to go for, so l thought l'd buy a classic because they're cheaper and l could always sell it on without too much of a loss.

The main thing l don't like about the inspo is the front mounted counter lungs, but l've ordered Paul Channings s/s backplate which converts the inspo to back mounted lungs. So l'm looking forward to diving with a clear chest area again and being able to see the d rings.
Can you see that far Dude? Or is that as close as you can focus these days?

On that subject a better question is probably decide what unit you want, then ask "what changes have you made to your unit?" and you'll get a good idea of what it's weaknesses are.

If I wasn't buying a Meg, then it would probably be an Inspo with Phi's travel frame, paul's back mounted counterlungs, my KISS DSV, and a backplate and harness instead of the AP one. So not really an inspo at all. I suppose I could put a hammerhead on it too, just to finish off the job!

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More beans on toast for the kids then for a long long time the methane in your house could power a small village i bet just buy the top dollar gucci one you'll only end up wanting that anyway
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i must say i do like the write up on dive tec for the meg against the KISS and the depth of the meg is 150 meters

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"what changes have you made to your unit?" and you'll get a good idea of what it's weaknesses are.
We had this conversation on the trip we were on this weekend, there were KISS, Inspos, Visions and a Meg on board.....
Looking around, my unit is 'almost out of the box' ....... well I have ditched the Autoair (have Buddy BCD, know the problems) added a reg to the DIL side, I use a backplate & harness (not standard) dive with an off board for suit inflation and a secondary 'KYAG', I have bought Paul Channing's BCML's (but until home move happens can't see a time that I will get it sorted soon) OK, maybe my unit is not out of the box

Chris had a Meg, added extra DIL buttons but said he never used them.....
Robert & Natasha's journeys with KISS & all sorts of electronics have been well documented on RBW
In fact check out RBW for any info you need on RB's, it is a great resource.......

Good luck, it is a great journey!

P.S. Search for Mark Chase's posts on his 'journey' excellent posts and an 'Inspiration' to all wannabes..............
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NO i need them as well there still shinny
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.......On that subject a better question is probably decide what unit you want, then ask "what changes have you made to your unit?" and you'll get a good idea of what it's weaknesses are.......
You could always buy a kiss, then fit second hand O2 cells, cut the plastic ends off to expose the sticky out bits, then solder them to the wire to the two PO2 readouts in the handset. Obviously you get rid of the third one because it's unnecessary.

You let your buddy think you're diving on two 02 cells when in fact you're only on one, anything more is just overkill.

Oops, l forgot a major bit of engineering, you get 'a mate' to bash the handset with a hammer.

Now you have a 'Diggerised' rebreather which is so much better than the 'fischer price' rebreather Digs recons l dive with

The funny thing is that, as any parent would know, fischer price make very tough reliable 'tools of the trade'..........ok then toys.
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