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Old 30-05-08, 08:13 PM
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I've just put down the deposit to order my third rebreather.
You're more hard core than crush & run.
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I've just put down the deposit to order my third rebreather.
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What have you bought now?
Something historic? A project? or a new all singing all dancing model?
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i would first want to know what diving you want to do!

is it just for diving to say 40mish then go scr "for now 40ish is ok"

if you intend going deeper ccr "there will always be the urge to go deeper trimix"

do you want it for traveling? "we all love to travel, is this a problem with some units?"

how often do you dive?" as much as i can try to get wet at least once a week"

what cash would you like to spend?" as much as it cost for the right unit"

answer the questions then you could find a unit

i cant see how anyone can just say have this its what you want without asking some questions first
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SCR*

an easy unit to use for up to 40m look at the Dräger
just nitrox fills {easy to get }

lime {co2 scrubber} easy to get {can use same as most other units}
and has a 1/2 fill sorb adapter

can use most cylinders up to around 10ltrs with an adapter in the din

so easy to travel with

no electronics or monitoring needed at all but you can add if wanted

also you could use a few others like azimuth {when traveling its a pain as you need cylinders that fit inside the shell} but everything else is ok
or the submatrix is ok i just dont like the look of them tho {just my opinion}

trimix on scr can be more complicated and you would need to add electronic monitoring

SCR cost isn't bad compared to OC nitrox as you use the same nitrox but with less waste than using OC nitrox it will last around 4 times as long depending on mix and depth

maintenance is fairly easy from week to week with all the scr units
maintenance can be a pain if the units need to go back with shipping costs


CCR

looking at everything on the market it would be something from AP or the new sentinel
both have good customer service in general and are both in this country
if you need it fixed or have problems you can go to the factory in person and get things sorted!!!

i have never had any real problems on my 2 AP units {classic/vision}

only doing dives to a max of 40m will cost more using CCR than diving OC but you will be on a better nitrox mix throughout the dive so prolonging bottom times and less deco

costs of units not bad 2nd hand


hope this helps
or you can PM,em@il or ring me

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Because you're obviously a dive god.
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I however, am mortal and the longer I stay alive, the better. I think all of the above (in my opinion) are reliable ways of making that happen.
what gas are you going to put through the BOV below 80m? {now this could be good lets say a dive to 90m then shall we}
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Call me old fashioned, but death by diving scares the sh1t out of me.
then stop diving! if i had that fear then i wouldnt dive {i only get in the water if im happy doing the diving im doing!}
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I'm not saying they're essential - I'm saying they help.
how did any of that help someone looking into diving?
thats just telling them things to cut down on skills they may need if the things you talk about go wrong!

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how did any of that help someone looking into diving?
thats just telling them things to cut down on skills they may need if the things you talk about go wrong!

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Good question. I don't know how recommending an eCCR helps anyone looking for simplicity.

However, "which rebreather" threads aren't going to get anyone anywhere as everyone with a unit has an axe to grind - which is why I would recommend that the OP asks someone with no particular favourites - so I'd recommend picking up the phone and actually having a conversation with Dave Cooper.

In my opinion (and that's all it is), I want a decent ADV and HUDS in the same way I want a car to have setbelts and airbags. I want a BOV in the same way I want a car to have a nice stereo.
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