Kirby Morgan Helmets ?

[Hoppy]

Hi,

Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.


In order to dive a KM helmet do you need to undertake some form of training?

This would be for a "one-off" dive, not a regular thing.

Your advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Hoppy

[nigelH]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

In order to dive a KM helmet do you need to undertake some form of training?
This would be for a "one-off" dive, not a regular thing.

You need to know where the valves are and what they both do but it's hardly rocket science. If you have an experienced dresser the rest just works.

NB: When they call it "Super-light" that is compared with the old "standard dress". It weighs a ton out of the water.

[keith_henson]

aye

they weigh a bloody ton! Hope you have 10 weeks spare and 3000 quid also for the surface supplied course. oh and a few grand spare for the helmet

keith

EDIT: miss read that, still half asleep - ive never had any form of training and now have something like a few dozen dives and a 2-3 hours underwater with the mk17 SL and the KM band masks.

[Andy the Coastie]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.

Sure is as ya talking about a commie hat.

Originally Posted by Hoppy

In order to dive a KM helmet do you need to undertake some form of training?

1). If you are with a commie dive team, and after the job , they are going to let you have a try ( depending on condititions of the dive sup ), then you will be told what the 2 gas knobs do..... Just really like any full face face , just breathe normally.

2). If you have borrowed a hat, then go bloody careful.

I have regularlly dived a KMB mk 10 on scuba ( 12 lt and pony ).

Originally Posted by Hoppy

This would be for a "one-off" dive, not a regular thing.

Just enjoy the experience.


Let me know more details into what your up to , and i may maybe able to give you some more in depth advice.

Now they can be fun...........

[NotDeadYet]

Knob at the front to open the freeflow valve, knob at the back to open your bail out, button at the front to shove the bar up your nose so you can equalise. Weighs a ton and the closest you'll ever get to wearing a spacesuit!!!

[Chardy]

I have spoken to Neil Brock at the NDC (01291 630046) and they will be doing dive experiences using the following kit - Superlite 17 Kirby Morgan, Arga with SSB Thruwater comms and Ocean Reef FFM with Comms. It will be an all day experience. Neil is an ex-commie from the oil industry.

Hope this helps,

Paul

[iain/hsm]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

Hi, Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
In order to dive a KM helmet do you need to undertake some form of training?
This would be for a "one-off" dive, not a regular thing.
Your advice would be much appreciated.
Cheers Hoppy

Best advise I can give is dont be the last one to wear the hat. Not if sucking up someone elses snot is something you feel your missing out on.

An important feature of the kirby morgan band masks KMB-10 Heliox18 or helmets S17 etc is the oral nasal mask inside the helmet, just make sure you clean it out before wearing hat. Also at the same time check the little one way mushroom valve in the oral nasal make sure its seated properly.

All have a "dial a breath" knob on the right hand side on the demand valve second stage. open it up till freeflowing then screw down until flow just stops, you will now be on demand, and will have to adjust this (open out) as you desend and close down as you assend.

I dont like the idea of using the 17 helmet with SCUBA and no unbilical or rope, in fact its a damm stupid stunt. These helmets will use more air than an standard scuba regulator, the scuba cylinder is your bail out, remember if its a modern helmet the locking lock down mechenism on the toilet seat yoke will not let you ditch the set in an emergency.

Before connecting up the umbilical check the non return valve in the inlet connector (suck and blow into it) Always use it with a surface supplied air supply with a proper diving panel and an emergency cross over air supply. Only use your scuba cylinder as bailout. Also use it as it was designed a surface supplied diving apperatus with an unbilical with comms and learn rope signals first.

The hats other two knobs are the free flow defog valve (self explanitary) on the front right and the emergency bail out on the side right, dont mix these up best advise is look at your contents gauge often if water is clear enough, if pressure is falling you are on emergency bail out air and not surface supply.

Finally get to use it with a team who know what they are about, and have a experienced topside support and standby diver, dont prick about with this or the third knob will be yourself. LOL
Final points just remember to suck and blow at the right time and dont get paid. Have a damm good time on it and let us all know how you get on.

[Hoppy]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the fantastic input. Scared the cr*p out of me now

A bit more background, the "idea" is that someone will be doing a sponsored dive in the pool, but for quite a while !

It was thought that the possible TV coverage might be better if the could talk to the idiot underwater, hence the suggestion of a KM helmet with comms. But the idea is to do it on scuba not surface fed.

Hopefully that might bring a slightly different response ? Although "flying" one of these doesn't sound as easy as it looks

ANymore suggestions now folks ? Apart from you silly s*d don't !

Cheers for a fab response to a prat though, much appreciated.

H

[gobfish1]

I have a kirby morgan band masks ,
use it in the pool with my twin set , not much to it . and good fun,

steve G

[keith_henson]

aye

flying a kirby band mask is rather easier than a 17. well thats what i found. generally found myself sinking headfirst witht he 17 on when trying to get neutral buoyancy. They are all good - would like one but no cash!

keith