New rates for divers

[The complete goggler]

Originally Posted by Okeanos

Commercial divers are usually restricted to 50m by the HSE, so why would you want anything other than air?

You surely know the benefits of Nitrox and why it is used, and there is a method of Heliox diving called 'Surface Gas' (no longer used in the N Sea) - which is widely used in the Gulf of Mexico down to 100m-ish.

[StephenT]

You dont get the BUZZ if you use heliox, so i can see why its not used. Although id have a buzz anyways from 400 quid a day

[Okeanos]

Originally Posted by The complete goggler

You surely know the benefits of Nitrox and why it is used, and there is a method of Heliox diving called 'Surface Gas' (no longer used in the N Sea) - which is widely used in the Gulf of Mexico down to 100m-ish.

If I am going below 50m I like a squirt of Helium, down to 50m is nitrox.

[The complete goggler]

Originally Posted by Okeanos

If I am going below 50m I like a squirt of Helium, down to 50m is nitrox.

Sound stuff, though I have found (recreationally) that I like that He squirt to start at 40m. Commercially, when either Nitrox or 'Mix' is likely to be of real use depends on the work scope and working depths.

[TUP]

Most Air dives in N Sea nowadays are Nitrox (EAD) and shallow saturation diving up to 15m. 40% tax and half the day rate (not paid when on leave) isn't brilliant for the risks!

[The complete goggler]

Originally Posted by TUP

Most Air dives in N Sea nowadays are Nitrox (EAD) and shallow saturation diving up to 15m. 40% tax and half the day rate (not paid when on leave) isn't brilliant for the risks!

Its interesting how people percieve risk, as stated above some would not take the risks of being paid to perform what is probably the safest and most regulated diving on the planet - though they happily pay top-dollar to carry-out highly dangerous dives in the name of leisure/sport. Professional divers get paid to take no risks, just do their work, whereas in the sport diving world everyone seems to leap-in to risks for the 'buzz'. There's a reason why SCUBA was drummed-out of professional diving long, long ago... it's fcukin' dangerous - statistics and logic prove it.

If you look at this argument as a monetary scale - where one could be paid 900+ quid to dive at 200m very safely from an SDC but choose to do the same depth on one's own pay-chit with a CCR or OC SCUBA off a hired vessel etc. running at 200+ quid - from top to bottom we are looking at a difference of around 1,100 to 1,200 squid p/day. I know which one I would choose - Oh, sorry, I already did!

Sorry, had a few beers and now Bolshie... or Bolshoy... don't know... don't care!

[TUP]

[ Professional divers get paid to take no risks, just do their work, ???????

I think you have had too much! It's clouded your viz!

Scuba is fine, it's the tasks taken on by people using scuba thats the problem. Scuba is dangerous, you'll find nearly all the incidents are human error and that risk is taken out by commercial divers using hose gear!

[The complete goggler]

[quote=TUP Scuba is fine, it's the tasks taken on by people using scuba thats the problem. Scuba is dangerous, you'll find nearly all the incidents are human error and that risk is taken out by commercial divers using hose gear![/quote]

Fine... dangerous... which one is your final answer TUP? Looks like your viz is as clouded as mine. If you've seen the amount of JSA's, HSA's, inductions, tool-box meetings and other safety related gubbins that have to be complied with you'll understand why I say we are paid NOT to take risks. Whether its offshore construction work or filming for TV in a swimming pool all the same safety rules apply.

[milldog]

i have a good friend who is a sat diver and some of the company's he has worked for he describes as absolutely Sh1te and wouldn't go back, also your only paid for the time on the job, so average that out over the year and well you'll have to work it out.

personally i work for my self, And theres more money to be made in communications than this sort of work and i get to see my family every night, in the end it would be down to the individual (quality of life family and friends around you or stuck in a tank with whoever ?)

however i have done the forces bit and served in pritty much every sh1t hole country around the world for a soldiers pay, at the time i loved the job, so what i think I'm trying to say is if you enjoy the work the pay is irrelevant

Graham

[TUP]

I do understand! It's in the name T U P (transfer Under Pressure, the most dangerous[risky] part of the dive)

Fly in a Helicopter over sea, land on a heaving ship shall I keep going?
Paid to take the Risks more like.