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Are there really no alternatives to VR3? &nbsp;Sounds like a missed opportunity for the other manufacturers...

Bang-On, do you just pay for an He upgrade when you need it? Is there any firmware upgrade or is it just pin activation?

And am I being unreasonable in thinking that a computer costing £550 plus should come with a) a suitable screen guard and b) the ability to download dive info?

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Are there really no alternatives to VR3? &nbsp;Sounds like a missed opportunity for the other manufacturers...

Bang-On, do you just pay for an He upgrade when you need it? Is there any firmware upgrade or is it just pin activation?

And am I being unreasonable in thinking that a computer costing £550 plus should come with a) a suitable screen guard and b) the ability to download dive info?

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Quote[/b] (zaksherlock @ April 16 2004,12:27)]did a trial last weekend 0f 65m for 30 mins. The deco 'felt' very clean
Zak,

Could you post the complete run time and gas mixes etc?

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Arse,

Having probs with the software at the mo, but heres a sample to give you an idea;

60m for 30 mins, using +3 conservatism, diluent of 10/52 and a setpoint of 1.3

Dec to &nbsp;60m (3:00) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;0.70 SetPoint, &nbsp;20m/min descent.
Level &nbsp; 60m &nbsp;27:00 (30:00) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;20m ead, &nbsp;27m end
Asc to &nbsp;39m (32) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 SetPoint, &nbsp;-10m/min ascent.
Stop at &nbsp;39m &nbsp; 0:54 (33) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;9m ead, &nbsp;18m end
Stop at &nbsp;36m &nbsp; 1:00 (34) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;8m ead, &nbsp;17m end
Stop at &nbsp;33m &nbsp; 1:00 (35) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;6m ead, &nbsp;16m end
Stop at &nbsp;30m &nbsp; 1:00 (36) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;4m ead, &nbsp;14m end
Stop at &nbsp;27m &nbsp; 1:00 (37) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;3m ead, &nbsp;13m end
Stop at &nbsp;24m &nbsp; 3:00 (40) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;1m ead, &nbsp;12m end
Stop at &nbsp;21m &nbsp; 2:00 (42) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;11m end
Stop at &nbsp;18m &nbsp; 4:00 (46) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;9m end
Stop at &nbsp;15m &nbsp; 4:00 (50) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;8m end
Stop at &nbsp;12m &nbsp; 5:00 (55) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;7m end
Stop at &nbsp;9m &nbsp; 8:00 (63) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;5m end
Stop at &nbsp;6m &nbsp; 29:00 (92) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;4m end
Asc to &nbsp;sfc. (92) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;-10m/min ascent.
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Quote[/b] (zaksherlock @ April 16 2004,12:27)]did a trial last weekend 0f 65m for 30 mins. The deco 'felt' very clean
Zak,

Could you post the complete run time and gas mixes etc?

Cheers
Juz
Arse,

Having probs with the software at the mo, but heres a sample to give you an idea;

60m for 30 mins, using +3 conservatism, diluent of 10/52 and a setpoint of 1.3

Dec to &nbsp;60m (3:00) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;0.70 SetPoint, &nbsp;20m/min descent.
Level &nbsp; 60m &nbsp;27:00 (30:00) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;20m ead, &nbsp;27m end
Asc to &nbsp;39m (32) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 SetPoint, &nbsp;-10m/min ascent.
Stop at &nbsp;39m &nbsp; 0:54 (33) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;9m ead, &nbsp;18m end
Stop at &nbsp;36m &nbsp; 1:00 (34) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;8m ead, &nbsp;17m end
Stop at &nbsp;33m &nbsp; 1:00 (35) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;6m ead, &nbsp;16m end
Stop at &nbsp;30m &nbsp; 1:00 (36) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;4m ead, &nbsp;14m end
Stop at &nbsp;27m &nbsp; 1:00 (37) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;3m ead, &nbsp;13m end
Stop at &nbsp;24m &nbsp; 3:00 (40) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;1m ead, &nbsp;12m end
Stop at &nbsp;21m &nbsp; 2:00 (42) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;11m end
Stop at &nbsp;18m &nbsp; 4:00 (46) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;9m end
Stop at &nbsp;15m &nbsp; 4:00 (50) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;8m end
Stop at &nbsp;12m &nbsp; 5:00 (55) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;7m end
Stop at &nbsp;9m &nbsp; 8:00 (63) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;5m end
Stop at &nbsp;6m &nbsp; 29:00 (92) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;1.30 &nbsp;SetPoint, &nbsp;0m ead, &nbsp;4m end
Asc to &nbsp;sfc. (92) &nbsp;on &nbsp;Diluent 10.0/52.0, &nbsp; &nbsp;-10m/min ascent.
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Quote[/b] (Mdemon @ April 18 2004,18:01)]Bang-On, do you just pay for an He upgrade when you need it? Is there any firmware upgrade or is it just pin activation?

And am I being unreasonable in thinking that a computer costing £550 plus should come with a) a suitable screen guard and b) the ability to download dive info?

Mr Picky.
mdemon,
the he software is already in the vr3 as is the cc etc but you need the pin number to open it,all our vr3's come with a screen guard included although it's the stick on type not the new type these are about a tenner extra.
the vr3 has a log screen in it that you can look at dive profiles etc but the pc based 'prolog' does give further info and details and cost's about £120 with proplanner the dive planning software program.
delta-p now include the download cd 'prolog' but as i said earlier its only good for a look see,to use for dowloading etc payment is required.

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Quote[/b] (Mdemon @ April 18 2004,18:01)]Bang-On, do you just pay for an He upgrade when you need it? Is there any firmware upgrade or is it just pin activation?

And am I being unreasonable in thinking that a computer costing £550 plus should come with a) a suitable screen guard and b) the ability to download dive info?

Mr Picky.
mdemon,
the he software is already in the vr3 as is the cc etc but you need the pin number to open it,all our vr3's come with a screen guard included although it's the stick on type not the new type these are about a tenner extra.
the vr3 has a log screen in it that you can look at dive profiles etc but the pc based 'prolog' does give further info and details and cost's about £120 with proplanner the dive planning software program.
delta-p now include the download cd 'prolog' but as i said earlier its only good for a look see,to use for dowloading etc payment is required.

cheers
barrie
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Cheers Barrie. &nbsp;Still a bit pricey for me at the moment - but definitely on the list...
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Cheers Barrie. &nbsp;Still a bit pricey for me at the moment - but definitely on the list...
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Quote[/b] (Mdemon @ April 18 2004,22:06)]Cheers Barrie.  Still a bit pricey for me at the moment - but definitely on the list...
<font color='#0000FF'>john,
no problem,we have made the vr3 more affordable since starting divertec but it's still a lump of cash.
dont let that stop you having a trial on one particulary if you have a trip planned,give me a shout.

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Quote[/b] (Mdemon @ April 18 2004,22:06)]Cheers Barrie.  Still a bit pricey for me at the moment - but definitely on the list...
<font color='#0000FF'>john,
no problem,we have made the vr3 more affordable since starting divertec but it's still a lump of cash.
dont let that stop you having a trial on one particulary if you have a trip planned,give me a shout.

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