BSAC 88 tables revealed?

[Adrian Kelland]

Tom Hennessy, the developer of the BSAC 88 tables may be about to comment on the 88 tables and current thinking.

Watch this space? http://www.bsacforum.co.uk/forums/depthforum/index.html

Adrian

[And]

current thinking distorted to fit the world of BSAC perhaps, but thankfully that doesn't effect me too much That threads been there for quite some time Adrian.

Andy

[Adrian Kelland]

Originally Posted by And

current thinking distorted to fit the world of BSAC perhaps, but thankfully that doesn't effect me too much That threads been there for quite some time Adrian.

Andy

As opposed to current thinking distorted to fit a different world? Tom Hennessy is not BSAC. It dies not mention BSAC thoughts.

Did you not notice the NEW post from Tom, dated today?

Adrian

[And]

Sorry Adrian, you got me all wrong.

Tom I am sure will have plenty to say although this is not on tables, but on dive computers, or submersible decometers as he calls them.

The trouble is that the gang at BSAC will not care and will simply say 'well its always worked for us', should he say anything that criticises current policies, such as the recent statement on using 1.6 po2 for deco, the policy of diving air to 50 mtrs, the policy of allowing instructors to instruct OC students on CCR (reasoning behind the 'no donate from the mouth' policy), and many other things I personally disagree with, as do many other BSAC members. So far this has all fallen on deaf ears, with a correspondingly lower membership as a result.

Tom, I am sure, will have plenty of good stuff to say, but sadly I think he is talking to the wrong audience

Andy

[chrisch]

Originally Posted by And

Tom, I am sure, will have plenty of good stuff to say, but sadly I think he is talking to the wrong audience

Andy

Get him on here Andy mate - then we will see!! Lots of 1.6PO2 and long hose divers on YD.....

(Or we could all decend on the bsac forum.........)

I'm awaiting the EAD stuff with baited breath (some helium inspired of course).

Chris

[NotDeadYet]

????? Is there a point to Hennessy's ramblings? I don't doubt that he has a great deal of diving knowledge but from what he has posted so far it just sounds like self-serving noise.

And WTF were BSAC thinking adopting/releasing tables that they did not insist on getting the full background on in the first place? Considering that BSAC's membership paid for it. The BSAC tables were based on outdated concepts when they were released in 88 and they aren't any better now.

However, as Gordon Henderson points out, the tables' strength is that they are easily used for repetitive diving. Computer software is dead easy to use to produce a one off, single dive set of tables but apart from the $25000 DCAP program there isn't any that can do repetitive diving tables simply.

It would be interesting to see Hennessy's views but I fear this will be no more than curiousity value in diving history.

[Mdemon]

All seems fairly anti-climactic to me - although it does highlight a few muppets...

Not sure why we should be getting excited about the author of 16yr old + saying something? Things have moved on beyond all recognition by the sound of things.

I suppose physiology remains the same, but getting the opinions of ex-navy types of that era doesn't seem to offer much when it comes to deco and END...

Let us know if he posts again Adrian...

[wreckweasel]

Originally Posted by And

the policy of allowing instructors to instruct OC students on CCR

Are they for real? sheesh, thats a move that can generously be described as "brave"

[Janos]

Originally Posted by And

, the policy of allowing instructors to instruct OC students on CCR (reasoning behind the 'no donate from the mouth' policy)

Hi And,

Not wishing to get into the whole donate from the mouth thing (Remember I do it myself). But I'm reasonably sure that BSAC say you can't teach trainees whilst CC, but that you can teach higher diving grades (definitely Dive Leader) whilst Closed Circuit. I can't remember at what point it's ok for you to teach while CC.

I think the general argument about teaching primary donate is that it's not standard across the world, and we ought to have a commonality of approach.

Laters,
Janos

[And]

Originally Posted by wreckweasel

Are they for real? sheesh, thats a move that can generously be described as "brave"

Not OW students, but on certain other courses and levels of diver who will be on OC, just to make that clear. See here http://www.bsac.org/techserv/rrc/training.htm