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Decompression Diving: Discuss whats acceptable in the Technical and Specialist Diving Forums forums: Now if it was Digger or Woz, it could be a lot harder. I understand that talking lobbocks can be ...

View Poll Results: at what point do you find acceptable
slight tiredness / headache (no action) poss sickness 27 71.05%
stiffness and joint fatigue (No action) poss sickness 8 21.05%
slight pain / headaches (no action) poss sickness 1 2.63%
slight tiredness / headache (call doc) poss sickness 1 2.63%
stiffness and joint fatigue (call doc) poss sickness 6 15.79%
slight pain / headaches (call doc) poss sickness 4 10.53%
bollocks pain is gain and i don't want people to know 2 5.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 21-11-06, 12:26 PM
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Now if it was Digger or Woz, it could be a lot harder. I understand that talking lobbocks can be a symptom, but with these two?...
Poor spelling is the internet diver equivalent. It's spelt "bollocks". Get yourself to a pot! You're bent!

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Poor spelling is the internet diver equivalent. It's spelt "bollocks". Get yourself to a pot! You're bent!

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Can't be, havn't dived for 10 days.

Or is that denial?

Anyway, AFAIK, lobbocks has always been spelt with 2 'b's
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I'm frequently a bit achey and tired after a dive and I know that if I get at all dehydrated (not uncommon exercising and breathing ultra dry air) I will get a headache, so would probably discount those as symptoms. Foolish? perhaps, but half the time I feel such a crock of sh*t anyway that I wouldn't bother checking out with the doc.

If things moved to sickness or something out of the ordinary (more focal pain for example), I would start the check up ball rolling.
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Can't be, havn't dived for 10 days.

Or is that denial?

Anyway, AFAIK, lobbocks has always been spelt with 2 'b's
Lobbocks? A sea crustacean Riesling type wine?
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in decompression diving what would you find acceptable after dive feelings when finishing your deco, i don't want long answers just you tick in the box and if its not mentioned why
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Having done 4 diver in Horsea this weekend (6) I had number 1 and 2 (tiredness and stiffness in my joints), I also sometimes have a headache.

It doesn't worry me - it was 6m and only hald an hour a dive.

The worse joint pains I have had is after teaching boathanding (no diving) when you are holding onto the rib/inflatable ropes to stay in the boat.

If I had done an unusual profile (fast ascent / missed stops) then I would be worried as my normal aches may mask DCS.

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I've had two proper bends (and a few niggles that cleared on O2). The pain is a lot different to general aches and pains. There is no way you would mistake it for a twinge. It hurts. Like fuck. And nothing you can do makes it stop hurting. It just feels all wrong, it feels like it is deep within the tissue, a very distinct feeling. If you are bent then you know it isn't muscle strain, there is no ambiguity.

I don't generally have any aches or pains after any dives so I'd be very suspicious if I did. I'd agree that diving a rebreather reduces fatigue. I have helium in most of my mixes regardless of depth, i think this makes a huge difference to fatigue levels.

As it's a closed environment it should (in theory) be fairly easy to track how much gas has been absorbed and how much has been released at the end of a dive by monitoring gas usage, dump rates and the rise and fall of ppO2 in the loop. I expect this will be a future development in onboard rebreather software. It could be a very good indicator as to whether or not the deco is complete.
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I often have headaches after diving and generaly put it down to dehydration.
Especcially when on the club rib as i don't really want to have to try and pee over the back of the boat with a bit of swell and so tend to drink very little.

I think a good days diving again from a club rib is hard work and always leaves me knacked and so i expect this as well.

If i had both of the above plus sickness then i would make a call to be on the safe side but no sickness and i would accept the above for what they are tiredness and dehydration.

Anything more than this any sort of joint pain of pain breathing would be an immediate call!! Not sure about muscle pain as i sometimes find lugging dive kit about makes my arms and sometimes back ache a bit (Cus i'm a big softy office worker!)

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I've not voted because my option is not there.

You should be judging against what is normal for you. For Example: If you always have a headache after a dive then you cannot use that as a reliable symptom of a bend. But if you never have a headache and then after one particular dive you do have one, then you need to be asking why.

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just been asked why put the bollocks pain is gain vote on there.......

thats for Garf, Helen considering what they did with the research beacon in Scarpa on SMB and SHOT
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I've not voted because my option is not there.

You should be judging against what is normal for you. For Example: If you always have a headache after a dive then you cannot use that as a reliable symptom of a bend. But if you never have a headache and then after one particular dive you do have one, then you need to be asking why.

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OK but if someone came up to you after the dive and said i feel a bit stiff and Ive a headache could you help me with my kit, would you just think , hard dive OK I'll help or ask a few more questions, at what piont do you call it, to call a doc.

that would also have a different answer if it was a dive babe or some old crabby git ??
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