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DIR Equipment: Discuss Equipment Config simply wrong outside Florida? in the DIR forums: Saw this on another thread. I had a think about this and cannot seem to remember any dive I have ...

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Old 02-05-07, 08:16 AM
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Equipment Config simply wrong outside Florida?

Saw this on another thread. I had a think about this and cannot seem to remember any dive I have done during which I felt I needed more equipment, or different equipment, to do the dive (other than larger scooter, larger tanks etc).

I have dived in Florida a number of times and other than placing my argon bottle on my waistband, a few specific items in my pockets like DSMB, and wearing gloves I don't change anything for my UK ocean diving.

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Should there be a link Andy or is it just the statement.

If just the statement you know what them dam yank are like
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It was just a statement, in the 'curious' thread, but it isn't worth linking to it as nothing important was said in that thread.
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I know that it has been covered ad nauseum in other threads but i do consider the long hose to be unnescessary if diving in open water. I also believe that bright flourescent fins are better for the ocean than black ones.

However, that said, I am only just starting on the tech diving ladder and am willing to be convinced otherwise.

just my 2 beads worth.

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I know that it has been covered ad nauseum in other threads but i do consider the long hose to be unnescessary if diving in open water.

However, that said, I am only just starting on the tech diving ladder and am willing to be convinced otherwise.
I think you will find the long hose very useful when you come to do your tech training as it gives you far more freedom to move about and solve issues with kit etc than a short hose.
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I think you will find the long hose very useful when you come to do your tech training as it gives you far more freedom to move about and solve issues with kit etc than a short hose.
really! When am i going to be that far away from my kit!


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really! When am i going to be that far away from my kit!


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Not your kit, your buddies! If you need to sort something out which he cannot reach, like some line on their fins, you will probably have a real trouble reaching that with a short hose.
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i think it could be said that the equipment config is overly prescriptive outside the florida caves. not wrong but for most diving outside any caves the exact position of the equipment is not really relevant.

I'm playing the naysmith here, so i'm coming at it from the angle of the general diver, who probably doesn't have a cue what DIR/GUE is.
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Not your kit, your buddies! If you need to sort something out which he cannot reach, like some line on their fins, you will probably have a real trouble reaching that with a short hose.
Ok, Makes sense, but surely such a scenario is just as likely during a recreational dive! Why don't we all have long hoses as standard ?
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I know that it has been covered ad nauseum in other threads but i do consider the long hose to be unnescessary if diving in open water. I also believe that bright flourescent fins are better for the ocean than black ones.

However, that said, I am only just starting on the tech diving ladder and am willing to be convinced otherwise.

just my 2 beads worth.

keith
I've had to use my long hose in open water, in a real gas sharing situation. It made life an awful lot easier than sharing using a short hose.

I agree it's not *necessary* but I think it's *desirable* - it's just so much easier to use when you need to. That's my experience anyway.

This was on a recreational, not a technical dive btw.

Fin colours- who cares if they're black? You are probably right about better visibility, and if jetfins came in yellow I might well buy those instead of black ones.

BTW I'm not DIR but I do use the gear you are talking about (which is also not 'DIR', DIR is just a diving system that incorporates use of that particular equipment set).
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