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DIR Equipment: Discuss Long hose, single tank in the DIR forums: That's what gave me the shits with long hose setup on singles I went to a 5foot under the arm ...

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Old 28-11-07, 02:16 AM
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That's what gave me the shits with long hose setup on singles
I went to a 5foot under the arm and that was better... I've just ditched that and gone to a short again due to hose routing off my first stage.
it'd be fine if i had one less hose on the rig.

you'll have to change your hose routing from the first stage and the angle it's attached to the cylinder valve

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I can't see from the front properly but you might want to have a look at the positioning of the crotch strap, it looks a little squewiff might want to have a look at putting the belt buckle to he right of it so the crotch strap goes straight up.

Is it possible to switch the hoses on the ports, backup and primary.
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The first "problem" I can see is the Dumpy cylinder. The first stage should be pretty much directly behind your head (when you put your head back, you should touch the reg). This would take up about 3" of the slack in the hose. Another thing you can do is turn the 1st stage the other way up, so the LP hoses come out below the HP one. This will also reduce the "loop" effect a bit.

I won't mention the Additional D-Ring on the right, or the fact that your HP hose looks too long

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Managed to find a photo to sort of describe the problem with the hose looping:

http://www.hvsac.co.uk/files/hose.jpg

Before anyone comments:

(i) Yes i know the harness is too low and the tank - its adjusted for my drysuit not t-shirt!
(ii) The surroundings are a little odd(!)

Basically though you can see the loop where it goes from the first stage down and towards the pocket, its actually a bit worse than that diving, when the hose is tight to my chest that back loop is even bigger which doesnt strike me as overly neat and non-snag.

So, anyone got any suggestions or is it just normal (am i too short!?)
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Old 28-11-07, 03:51 PM
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I can't see from the front properly but you might want to have a look at the positioning of the crotch strap, it looks a little squewiff might want to have a look at putting the belt buckle to he right of it so the crotch strap goes straight up.
As i said, harness is set up for drysuit/undersuit not the t-shirt i was wearing so ignore all the crotch strap, waist belt stuff on it - was a case of shoving the kit on purely to illustrate the hose without adjusting all the harness

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Is it possible to switch the hoses on the ports, backup and primary.
Possible yes but i cant see what that would achieve. The problem looks like on this first stage at least the hoses all stick out 90 degrees horizontally- the first page link where someone showed a scubapro that had a vertical port looked nice but my apeks dont have that (and i dont fancy new regs as i only just got these!). Not sure if such a thing as 90 degree port adaptors exist or even less sure if theyre a good idea but it might help i guess.
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The first "problem" I can see is the Dumpy cylinder. The first stage should be pretty much directly behind your head (when you put your head back, you should touch the reg). This would take up about 3" of the slack in the hose. Another thing you can do is turn the 1st stage the other way up, so the LP hoses come out below the HP one. This will also reduce the "loop" effect a bit.
First stage rotation is an option - i had it that way up to protect the squidgy bit but its an idea. As for the tank location etc - as i said its set up for a much thicker drysuit/undersuit combination and is normally higher than that.

I'll test the first stage orientation though

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I won't mention the Additional D-Ring on the right, or the fact that your HP hose looks too long
...or the non brass SPG and many other things.. As i said, its the hose im trying to solve here currently - one thing at a time
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Possible yes but i cant see what that would achieve.
String,
Swapping them round would bring the primary loop closer into your body thus reducing the "sticking out" affect - I presume this is what John was aluding to.
Just keep playing with it m8, it'll come together.
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I won't mention the Additional D-Ring on the right, or the fact that your HP hose looks too long

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Shame on you John, you didn't mention the boot on the SPG!
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try putting the first stage at a 45 degree angle and adapting your hose routing from there
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You have the hose coming from the pouch on your right then up over your chest. If you had a knife or shears on your left hand front part of the waist band, you could route the hose from the pouch, across your waist, under the knife/shears, then up the left hand side of your chest to your neck.

It would take up more of the slack. Is it compliant? Sorry, I don't know.
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