Long hose, single tank

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After some tips here.

Firstly i'll state ive used a standard length long hose on twin 12s/DR classive wing and it routed very nicely.

Not im on a single tank and finding issues with it for a few reasons.

Firstly on twins it routed vertically nicely down the back of the wing and then out from under it (if that makes sense).
However on a single im finding it sticks out, comes across the wing to the waist creating a rather large loop in that area.

I dont own a can. light but have tried (i) shears and (ii) big pocket to route the hose under but it still seems to loop.

I found a photo similar to the issue i've got (its not me in the photo):

Me diving at Koh Bon, Thailand on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Thats basically what i look like underwater with it.

With it hog looped properly for my mouth the hose seems to have too low and below the pocket/shears so flops around and generally not secure.

Could it be something to do with first stage routing here? On twins i can route it downwards, on the single setup (apeks FSR) it routes out horizontally so is always more likely to pull across rather than down the wing.
Or maybe it works nicer on twins due to the tanks and wing being wider so hold it better?

Alternatively, am i just doing something wrong regarding routing it or is it just a little bit too long for me on single setup and i need to live with it or ditch it?

I've tried the 5ft setup and although it works i find it a touch "busy" hose wise under and around my arm.

[weazelz]

I tuck my long hose in my belt on twins & singles, seems to work for me

[Bardo]

Simple solution - get rid of the shears that you're using to keep the long hose in place and tuck the hose into your harness waste strap instead. Ideally you need a light canister to keep it in place but the old 'tuck the hose' trick works just as well. This will hopefully keep some of the excess hose under control and you can still deploy the long hose with ease...

If you're happy to throw money around and you want the most 'optimal' single tank rig then I'd recommend ditching the FSR and buying yourself a Scubapro mk25 1st stage. You don't need to dump your Apeks 2nd stages and pressure guage - just use them with the mk25. The mk25 is particularly well suited to single tank rigs as it has that very, very useful low pressure port in the base of the first stage which allows the hose to route directly downwards, just like your twinset hoses which - as you know - makes everything a hell of a lot tidier.

This is pretty much what I recently did on my single tank diving rig - I have a mk25 DIN first stage with a set of Apeks ATX50 2nd stages and it's absolutely lovely! I used to have a DS4 on there but I really didn't like the way that the hoses stuck out - especially the long hose and high pressure hose. With the mk25, the hoses don't stick out and everything is very, very neat and streamlined.

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[broady]

As an alternative bungee it to the tank and route over your shoulder

Graham

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Oopsey - just realised the section this is in - as you were, nothing to see here !!!!

[Bardo]

Originally Posted by broady

As an alternative bungee it to the tank and route over your shoulder

Graham

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Oopsey - just realised the section this is in - as you were, nothing to see here !!!!

Post number 666 - how very appropriate, Graham! Definately a case of playing devil's advocate there, I'd say! lol

[broady]

LOL - yeah I spotted that too and then thought it rather best not to draw attention to myself any further !!!

Cheers

Dunce Devil

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I've been tucking into the belt before now - its fine although do find it a bit of a pain to retuck after deploying. Not helped by my choice of pouch weight belt which clutters up.

Even tucked though ive found due to the hose routing it seems to pull across the wing rather than down and under. Im not changing the first stage for it though

Should add im not DIR but have a lot of kit configured in that way - i prefer hog wrap to tank bungee so figured this was the best place to actually post the question.

[pieater]

Originally Posted by Bardo

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Where does the other hose come out when you need two inflators (for dry suit)?

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by pieater

Where does the other hose come out when you need two inflators (for dry suit)?

Just behind #2 .... there are 4 outputs on the swivel plus the one on the end.

I dived a MK25 for the first time last week on a single tank and it worked v well.

I tucked the long hose under a Halcyon pocket on the waist band, then hooked it under the knife scabbard then hoglooped it. The length was perfect.

HTH
Mal

[Devon Rob]

Alternatively you can reduce the hose length to 1.50 metres and run it under your armpit. HTH
Rob