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DIR Equipment: Discuss Why not these? in the DIR forums: I've been recommended Agir Brokk Fin straps for my Jetfins, however what's wrong with these? Are the Agir ...

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Old 26-11-07, 07:47 PM
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Why not these?

I've been recommended Agir Brokk Fin straps for my Jetfins, however what's wrong with these? Are the Agir ones really worth another 35 quid?

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Someone better than me will say if the Beaver ones are compliant or not. However the Agir ones are very similar to the Halcyon ones and are very good, as with all Agir stuff.

My guess is it's something to do with the extra rubber loop on the back - but what do I know.


I have a pair of Large Manta spring straps doing nothing if you want to offer me about £23
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I only know one guy who uses the Beaver straps, he hasn't had any problems. Beaver kit does get a bit of bad press for being poor quality, can't really comment myself.

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Just use some bungee and some clear plastic to cover it. B+Q less than a fiver for the whole lot,

I put two cable ties on each side and they have been spot on.

No idea if that is DIR compliant though.
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Ive had both types on my fins and never had a problem (commercial and the normal clip in types).

I have the commercial type on my Turtle fins and there just fine.
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Thanks all...

So I guess what I'm saying is are the rubber Beaver type ones compliant or not - if not, why not!?

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Someone better than me will say if the Beaver ones are compliant or not. However the Agir ones are very similar to the Halcyon ones and are very good, as with all Agir stuff.

My guess is it's something to do with the extra rubber loop on the back - but what do I know.
Actually it's got more to do with the quality of the springs and metal fittings that Beaver use (not to mention the over-engineered rubber bit that really isn't neccessary) - it seems that their definition of 'marine-grade' differs greatly from everyone elses! Personally I'd rather spend the extra money and get a decent set of AGIR or Halcyon spring straps - at least you know they're gonna last! I've had a set of Halcyon spring straps on my Frogs for about four years and they're still going strong...
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Now this is a serious question here... I just don't see what is wrong with the normal rubbery fin straps myself. I don't see the point of the hassle of fitting these spring based straps, as I don't have any problems with the normal pull on straps.
I use the ND jetfin clonies with the heavy duty rubber straps, with the metal pin which lifts to adjust.

Am I missing the point here, as I really don't see these spring straps as being so much easier to use.
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Am I missing the point here, as I really don't see these spring straps as being so much easier to use.
I think so.....it's not about the quality or the necessity....it's about spending £££££ on certain products. . . .
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No, the Beaver straps, and the Woz ones etc, are used by large chunks of the diving population, and some also use the Halcyon and Agir Brock ones as well. But I personally just have never found a need for any of the spring straps, which is what I meant.
I'm just interested in why so many divers of all qualifications consider these such a necessity.
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