Clipping off primary reg

[Lou]

Originally Posted by Digger

What happens if someone hits you out of gas when you're breathing off the necklaced reg with the primary clipped off? Bad idea.

That is what I think - but why is this different from DIR teams doing it? Especially in the earlier levels of training?

I am really looking for a situation illustration, I suppose. When is it clipped off? What happens during an OOA when team members have it clipped off?

[Lou]

Originally Posted by Darren A

Hi Digger

Not sure which is worse. If they take your necklaced reg, then you'd either have to unclip your primary, or sweep your arm back to try and recover it if it's dangling. At least if it's clipped off, you know exactly where it is. Or am I making a wally of myself and missing something obvious!
D

How have you the long hose stowed??

When I am wearing it hog-looped and caught in my waist band, or under my shears (that I wear where the light canister would be) the second stage hose goes round my neck and when dropped rom my mouth falls only a foot at the very most in front of me. no sweeping for it, it is right there in front of me. It isn't like you have a huge aboutn of spare hose floating around that lets it drift off behind you or something, only just enough free for it to come around your head and into your gob!

[Garf]

As this is on the DIR thread I thought I'd chip in.

Boltsnaps should be attached using caveline, not using somethinglike an O ring. the DIr standard used to include a breakable connection in this way, but iut was found not to provide any real advantage, and as they degrade over time they can provide a disadvantage over using caveline. thus the standard was changed so that all boltsnaps should now be attached with caveline.

The reg exists basically in one of three states. It is in someones mouth, clipped off, or in someone'e hand, so it is never left dangling. The reasons for this as Digger has pointed out, is that it can dangle below you without you noticing. Perhaps more dangerously, it can get caught up in something and snag you, even ending up behind you where you cannot reach it. I have actually seen this happen.

How to tie a suitable knot can be seen here

http://fue.no/fue_mambo/index.php?op...1&limitstart=3

And the boltsnap should be placed right next to the second stage.

[Digger]

The reg normally only gets clipped when switching to a stage doesn't it? So they still take the reg from the mouth, being the stage, and then switch to the necklaced backup. Again, not certain, but pretty sure.

But, if you're diving them as indies with no stages and switch to the backup clipping off the primary they can't take the necklaced reg or the primary. You become useless to them.

Digs.

[Darren A]

Originally Posted by Lou

How have you the long hose stowed??

Don't have a long hose (so to speak )

[Lou]

Originally Posted by Garf

As this is on the DIR thread I thought I'd chip in.

Boltsnaps should be attached using caveline, not using somethinglike an O ring. the DIr standard used to include a breakable connection in this way, but iut was found not to provide any real advantage, and as they degrade over time they can provide a disadvantage over using caveline. thus the standard was changed so that all boltsnaps should now be attached with caveline.

The reg exists basically in one of three states. It is in someones mouth, clipped off, or in someone'e hand, so it is never left dangling. The reasons for this as Digger has pointed out, is that it can dangle below you without you noticing. Perhaps more dangerously, it can get caught up in something and snag you, even ending up behind you where you cannot reach it. I have actually seen this happen.

How to tie a suitable knot can be seen here

http://fue.no/fue_mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemi d=42&limit=1&limitstart=3

And the boltsnap should be placed right next to the second stage.

So what do you do for donation and OOG when it is clipped off?

[Garf]

Originally Posted by Digger

The reg normally only gets clipped when switching to a stage doesn't it? So they still take the reg from the mouth, being the stage, and then switch to the necklaced backup. Again, not certain, but pretty sure.

But, if you're diving them as indies with no stages and switch to the backup clipping off the primary they can't take the necklaced reg or the primary. You become useless to them.

Digs.

Noi, the reg gets clipped whenever it is not on the way to someome's mouth, which is slightly different than just moving to a a stage. For example, you also clip it when kitting and dekitting, and also when performing an S drill and are breathing off the backup reg

[Garf]

Originally Posted by Lou

So what do you do for donation and OOG when it is clipped off?

Not quite with you. I'm afraid Lou. Give me the scenario you have in mind.

[Moz]

Hi Digger,

I think the point is that you should be able to breathe from the reg even when it is clipped off. I beleive it's not normal to dive indies 'DIR' so that problem wouldn't occour


Could be talking odblocks! though

David

[Woz]

This is what I do to avoid an annoying boltsnap dangling around. O ring and double ender. Only really use it when, as you say, I switch to a stage or am driving indies. O ring tiewrapped (you could use string if you like) and you can see the double ender on the d ring. Long enough to breathe when clipped off too.