Experience DIR/Fresh Water/Sea etc w: Exp DIR - Weekend 11/12 August 2007 - Vobster

[wilbo]

Originally Posted by Buoyant Babe

I don't think I'm a DIR wannabe but I am becoming DIR curious and had it not been a bit far I would have put my name down for the gig.

Helen - I think Neilh is looking to sort out a norvern gig at crap'n'rainy.

[MartyC]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

I ride my horse in an indoor school training him for dressage competitions.

Mal

Don't the desks and pupils get in the way?

[DAFFY]

I am still at that stage, where having done only around 100 dives, I try to get in to the water whenever possible, and that includes the sea and puddles, and I enjoy all the dives i do. All trainees in our club follow the usual path of pool/Leybourne/guildy or stony then Bovisand and it seems to work. Last weekends conditions where not great but the would be OD's did great, so the puddle dives certainly helped. With Leybourne only 10 minutes down the road it is very convenient to grab the kit and jump in for some training. I was able to build up on my skills by diving in the sea and having to deal with currents and surges, but was glad that my initial skills were taught in calmer and safer conditions. All said and done i have done roughly two thirds of my dives in the sea and have had some fantastic dives yet a highlight will always be going under at stony and actually seeing fish for the very first time

[CALLISTO]

Sea Diving is something I have to do ...until the next Fresh Water trip !!!

A

[David]

Originally Posted by JasonP

Moved to another thread because I was asked to.


So basically, you're too busy doing proper diving? Which is fair enough. It's one of the reasons I have no interest in teaching.

Jason

is this group getting old ?

you know I think you used to be on that old newsgroup I stopped reading.
have you worked out yet why so many people stopped reading it yet.......

when the penny drops feel free to join in with the rest of us....

David

[JasonP]

Originally Posted by David

is this group getting old ?

you know I think you used to be on that old newsgroup I stopped reading.
have you worked out yet why so many people stopped reading it yet.......

when the penny drops feel free to join in with the rest of us....

Newsgroups are dying a death including many that I've never posted to. A lot of ISPs don't provide them and people expect everything to be web based these days. There are a lot of people who here who used to frequent the newsgroups. The mailing lists all seem to have died too.

People drift away from diving. There doesn't seem to be any particular pattern to it. Once you stop, I think it's quite easy not to start again.

Jason

[TerryH]

TBH we always do quarries first, sea after.

I can do three 45 min dives in Vobster with students, without looking at a
tide table. We do though stop doing quarries the moment the training is
done. So quarries = training to me, but if people just want to do puddles, fine.

One thing that does concern me (and this is not a pop at this group BTW),
is well meaning individuals attempting training. It's one thing to mentor
an existing diver, it's another to start to teach.

That's a very thin line, which is very easy to cross.

Experinced divers can share experinces and that's good, but if you want
to teach, become an Instructor. Big difference.

[Fiona]

Originally Posted by TerryH

One thing that does concern me (and this is not a pop at this group BTW),
is well meaning individuals attempting training. It's one thing to mentor
an existing diver, it's another to start to teach.

That's a very thin line, which is very easy to cross.

Experinced divers can share experinces and that's good, but if you want
to teach, become an Instructor. Big difference.

Blimey there would be a lot of newish divers on YD who wouldn't get a dive with more experienced divers then, maybe we should remove the "looking for a buddy" section.

Terry I agree there is a thin line, but when Gav and I went to Vobster to dive with Garf, we did just that have a dive.

Developing skills while diving with someone with better skills is an excellent way to "learn" however what you are saying is that no ocean diver should dive with a dive leader.

I developed my curiosity by going along to watch a fundies course (only two of the days) I wasn't being taught anything.

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by JasonP

Moved to another thread because I was asked to.


So basically, you're too busy doing proper diving? Which is fair enough. It's one of the reasons I have no interest in teaching.

Jason

Everyone stop fighting and accept it






FTR with our trainees we do quarries first and sea afterwards.

Safe diving,
Steve

[NeilP]

When I was with FDC we used to teach basics in the pool, then 1st Open water dive was a sheltered shore dive.