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If you can get there for the saturday morning that would be best, as the first surface topic of the weekend is essentially "What is DIR all about", and I think from the plan I am down to do that one. If you are just curious, this is probably the best bit to listen to as each surface session and dive builds on the last.

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Just chatted with David, and that weekend is when my rugrat is away with her Dad on holiday so if it's ok with you lot I'll come down for the day to meet you properly and also to listen in to your surface discussions! I may even agree to be your shore support for the day!!! It'll also be nice to just hang around at Vobster and apologise to Tim for worrying him on Saturday.

IF I come down for a day, which day would be better? The Saturday or Sunday or is there no difference?
I would contact Chimp1 for that information. He knows what is going on. Then once you've done that - speak to Chimp2 - because he actually does know whats going on. If you get to Chimp3.. Run.

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I would contact Chimp1 for that information. He knows what is going on. Then once you've done that - speak to Chimp2 - because he actually does know whats going on. If you get to Chimp3.. Run.

chimp3 will be late anyway :-)
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I would contact Chimp1 for that information. He knows what is going on. Then once you've done that - speak to Chimp2 - because he actually does know whats going on. If you get to Chimp3.. Run.

Who's Chimp3? Can remember who 1, 2 & 4 is, but 3??????

Garf, what time on the Saturday morning??
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Who's Chimp3? Can remember who 1, 2 & 4 is, but 3??????

Garf, what time on the Saturday morning??
if you wait long enough he will be here..........
he needs about an hour to catch up........
if he is realy running late then who knows........

could be next week ...........

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Nope, not thinking of going down the route. Just curious.

Is there a post/thread/website or something to give a precis of the basics of what DIR is all about and why?

Having met some of you on Saturday it does intrigue me, but haven't really understood the concept. And then I read the thread about the length of hoses (yes I said HOSES), and it fascinated me, mainly because my second stage hose is about 2 inches too long (not often you hear a girl say that! ) and I have to fight to keep the reg in my mouth. Being just a novice diver it's interesting to hear other opinions and hopefully get to "Doing it right"!!!!????

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be very scared of someone who tells you they are doing it right!

regarding your regulator, maybe you just need to change the angle that the hose runs at? ideally the one to your primary regulator should run horizontally over your shoulder (horizontally as you stand on the ground!) so that pulling on your mouth is minimised. if you can get this the length of the hose is less of a big deal as it will tend towards being neutral-ish in the water. Apeks DS4s/DSTs style 1st stages where the ports sprout hoses horizontally (when fitted to a single tank) are good for this, i'm less impressed by the ones which sprout hoses vertically.

i use a long hose/donate primary reg. i've a surplus 2m hose if your interested, though i think for most open water diving 1.5m is a better length.

any hooo, lots of opinions DIR! keep an open mind and cherry pick bits if you find things you like!

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First thing in the morning means we'll probably kick off the surface stuff at 0930 once everyone has had time to get through the queue and get themselves a coffee.

The whole two days is planned out in terms of surface sessions and dives. This includes video debrief on the saturday evening. If you are not diving, then you will still hopefully get a lot out of the day if you can stay for the surface stuff on the saturday.

This will include the safety briefing, how the weekend will be conducted, who is who, what DIR is all about, kit configuration, buoyancy advice, How we manage gas, How we conduct predive checks, Light signals, team work and communication.

the weekend will give people a real insight into what all the fuss is about, as a large amount of topics will be covered. However, it is also worth nothing that whilst it will be a very busy weekend, and we are covering a lot, we are covering each topic only with enough depth so that people understand why we do it and how it helps us. It will not replace training from a professional instructor, and none of the topics will be done in so much detail that people then know enough to go get themselves hurt, or that a DIr instructor then has to undo poor work on our part.

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regarding your regulator, maybe you just need to change the angle that the hose runs at? ideally the one to your primary regulator should run horizontally over your shoulder (horizontally as you stand on the ground!) so that pulling on your mouth is minimised. if you can get this the length of the hose is less of a big deal as it will tend towards being neutral-ish in the water. Apeks DS4s/DSTs style 1st stages where the ports sprout hoses horizontally (when fitted to a single tank) are good for this, i'm less impressed by the ones which sprout hoses vertically.

i use a long hose/donate primary reg. i've a surplus 2m hose if your interested, though i think for most open water diving 1.5m is a better length.

any hooo, lots of opinions DIR! keep an open mind and cherry pick bits if you find things you like!

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any hooo, lots of opinions DIR! keep an open mind and cherry pick bits if you find things you like!

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Or alternatively, just ignore this and come along and make of it what you will. cherry picking DIR misses the entire point, but don't make that decision based on the web, come along as you suggest and make your own mind up. It works for some people, not for others. It's not the only solution, or the "correct" solution, but it agrees with some of us.
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hey Roy go read the thread :-)

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Have a , no offense meant - I know it's free??.....as for reading the thread!!...I am an Engineer - I can not read!...

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