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Old 25-03-08, 12:54 PM
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Hehe. She does have a point, Steve - some things are just better demonstrated...
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Hehe. She does have a point, Steve - some things are just better demonstrated...
True, I await the video to compliment the other 'how to's' with anticipation, I'm never to old to learn.

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When teaching the rescue bit of DL and SD (this has nothing to do with DIR so bear with me) we did a PRM a few weeks back.

Now. Everyone is normally taught to dekit in the water etc. However we found that with their kit still on it's much easier to haul the casualty out in one fell swoop then dekit them on land. A strap each, a good haul and they're out of the dangerous wet stuff. Then you can unclip/cut on dry land and it's much easier.
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I dive my one-piece harness all the time. A while ago, I put a clip in an old harness to experiment and it was a PITA. You really want to put a clip in by your shoulder to be able to find it easily and so your hand finds it naturally. Unfortunately this is exactly where some fool decided it would be a good place to put a D-ring, so that I could find torch, spare double-ender, clipped off long hose etc easily. The clip was a total PITA and virtually impossible to undo....

So I reverted back to my one-piece no clip and guess what? It is easy to de-kit in the water wearing a drysuit, a 5mm semi or a shortie, it works with twin steel 12's, ali twin 80's or just an 80.

I used it when diving from a hardboat (with lift) an enormous hardboat (with ladder) and a RHIB - no ladder or lift.

I am rather hoping it may work when I go to Florida, with a dry-suit and twin 104's - and no boat at all but we'll see

In my humble opinion, it is probably a matter of information needed to release an unconcious diver from a one-piece. However, most peoples kits have their own idiocyncrasities, and one would be hard-pressed to find a clip or a buckle on my (norfolk) clubs kit - but that would be because they were hidden under ropes, torches, goodie bags, crowbars and yore amount of flags, SMB's reels and Christ knows what else...

If in the meantime, an untrained diver needs to rescue me, please feel free to use either a knife or snips - or bolt-cutters if necessary.


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* Deflate the wing (some) you now have more room. Slide the webbing down one shoulder, roll diver out, slide off other shoulder, rig will fall away. BUT make sure that long hose, suit inflate, neck-laced reg, waist strap, crotch strap, weight-belt (if wearing one, but check) have all been removed/released and nothing is attached to the diver. And, if you need to, add some gas to the suit.....

Of course, if you like the diver, at the same time you release £2k's worth of kit, you could always hit the wing inflate button
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Hi Clare,

In that case how do you teach the removal of kit in water for RIB diving?

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Steve it isn't hard, we dived twinsets from ribs and back into ribs in the Redsea last year and all but a couple of dives in single rig were done from zodiacs in the Galapagos neither Lou, Caroline or myself had any issues.

Frankly it is no more difficult than taking off a BC and certainly doesn't take any longer than it takes some to pinch a few clips
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It's not partuicularly difficult to get out of a one piece apart from when you're dekitting in a Force 7 that's blown up and the RIB is trying its hardest to smash your brains in.

That's when you need a clip.
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Steve it isn't hard, we dived twinsets from ribs and back into ribs in the Redsea last year...
So did I. Next time I'm diving a single and slinging another 12 for the Rosalie Muller. Twinset is a complete overkill.
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It's not partuicularly difficult to get out of a one piece apart from when you're dekitting in a Force 7 that's blown up and the RIB is trying its hardest to smash your brains in.

That's when you need a clip.
That's was the point I was trying to make

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That's was the point I was trying to make

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Steve I guess you haven't tried to get out of one, which makes that statement rather pointless, unless of course you mean it's easier to hold on to the sides of the RIB while someone else unclips your harness - in which case should you be out in a force 7.
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