Single piece of webbing for harness

[dublinbay]

As an after thought, surgical tubing hardwired onto backup reg is a no no imho. Better to have thin bungee cord with a chinese finger trap set up on the back up, easier to break free from.

[TerryH]

lol! So what you're effectively saying is that taking two 12 litre bottles on your back is 'overkill' but it isn't overkill to take two 12 litre bottles with one side slung? That statement is just complete nonsense.

At least with a manifolded twinset, gas management becomes a lot more straight forward and you can still access the gas in both cylinders if you have to shut down a post.

He was responding to a RIB question.

Twins might be better off a hardboat, but there are definate advantages
to having a sideslung that you can hand up on a RIB or squidgy.
Be easier as well on some Red Sea boats.

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Well I'm a commercially endorsed skipper, and drive a hardboat that carries 12+2... and have no problem with any type of dive kit.

It's my job to know how to rescue people effectively and to deal with any and all types of equipment i may be presented with.

[dublinbay]

Clips are designed to be released quicly, best thing is to try it, have a diver with clips and then a DIR setup (use old wedding as no one likes their kit being destroyed) and see whats quicker, in a rescue senerio, its easier with clips, Ive taught a lot of rescue courses and this included DIR kit, and in the case of one piece webbing it was more difficult to get the diver out.

Safe Diving!

No worries big fella, my boys will show you how to get out of single piece harness on the rescue course

[scuba g]

When I got bent, I was semi concious at the surface. My buddy got me out of my harness as we had trained for. He slid my hand under harness and pulled it through while pulling harness in oposite direction. I didnt drown AFAIK it took maybe 10-15 seconds.

Glad you pointed that out! Would have wondered who was posting!
Only kiddin Big J!

[Fiona]

It's my job to know how to rescue people effectively and to deal with any and all types of equipment i may be presented with.

That's because you know how to use the stuff between your ears

[TerryH]

Agreed Terry, but when did you last do a buddy check with the skipper so that he knew how your (and everyone else's on the boat) kit worked?

Everyone diving the same config makes it easier for the skipper too

Well it would be a bit difficult for your average dive-boat skipper not to
pick up how the odd clip worked. Main difference IMO is whether you can
get someone out one-handed without cutting. Soon as you introduce the
prospect of having to cut, you also introduce the prospect of not having
anything to cut with.

Be much happier with a skipper attempting to undo a basic common or
garden clip, then I would him trying desperatly to locate some sort of
cutting device.

[dublinbay]

Well it would be a bit difficult for your average dive-boat skipper not to
pick up how the odd clip worked. Main difference IMO is whether you can
get someone out one-handed without cutting. Soon as you introduce the
prospect of having to cut, you also introduce the prospect of not having
anything to cut with.

Be much happier with a skipper attempting to undo a basic common or
garden clip, then I would him trying desperatly to locate some sort of
cutting device.

One handed?? Doubt it. Cant see anyone being so cool using one hand only. Place the divers hand under webbing and pull webbing and hand in opposite direction. Try it, it works.

[TerryH]

Well I'm a commercially endorsed skipper, and drive a hardboat that carries 12+2... and have no problem with any type of dive kit.

It's my job to know how to rescue people effectively and to deal with any and all types of equipment i may be presented with.

Come on Brian that's not strictly true is it?

You are a diver, so its laudable that you go beyond what is required of the
average commercial skipper. Yes, it's your job to know how to rescue
people, but the the law doesnt go as far to say that you must cover
all and every aspect of diver kit.

There are an awful lot of dive boat skippers that switched from fishing
and have never dived. They might no basics, but you couldnt hit them
with some aspects and expect a knowledgable response.

[Bardo]

My experience of dive boat skippers is that they are better a operating a boat than expressing an opinion on diving and should be regarded in that light

Hehe. Amen to that!

One handed?? Doubt it. Cant see anyone being so cool using one hand only. Place the divers hand under webbing and pull webbing and hand in opposite direction. Try it, it works.

Exactly - it aint rocket science. The other point worth mentioning is that if the casualty is on the surface, don't overinflated their wing or it'll make this *a lot* more difficult...