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Old 02-05-08, 12:12 PM
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and to be fair to you, I think that used to happen a lot. these days, even the official fundies course does a hell of a lot more "this is why..." and the get-togethers we organise are completely around the "why".
'Why' is one of my most used words. I will question things until I know the reason behind a decision, a method, or in this case, a peice of kit.
I like getting the esplanation before I have to ask why
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Old 02-05-08, 12:16 PM
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Thanks Phil That's my curiosity satisified an I'm sorry to hear about the post but good to know the moderation is working well, as usual
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Old 02-05-08, 12:17 PM
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Kinda makes you want to know what it was
I deleted the post because I said something stupid out of childish anger. It's a long road to perfection so got to make a few mistakes
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Old 02-05-08, 12:17 PM
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Standards are a vital element of DIR. Standard kit configuration, standard gases, standard procedures, etc.

If you start to deviate from that then you start to lose the point of it all and move away from the DIR methodology to a more general rec/tech approach.

If you don't want the standardisation aspect that DIR brings then there are other perfectly good courses that accommodate a far more flexible approach. If, however, you do want to take a DIR course then I'm afraid you need to be prepared to accept the constraints and requirements of the course.

but all agencies give standard kit, standard gases, standard procedures its not a DIR thing exclusively. The exclusive DIR thing is thhe anal attention to detail and the following to the letter.

but it still doesn't convince me that DIR can't except RB's and they will in time. First it was big no-no, now its a 'we're looking at it', i've heard this many times across many fields. Its the way tech diving is going in the long-term, GUE will go too. When it gets to a stage where DIR-GUE are the last fat boy being picked for football, then they'll join up.

5-10 years in my estimation.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:20 PM
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but all agencies give standard kit, standard gases, standard procedures its not a DIR thing exclusively. The exclusive DIR thing is thhe anal attention to detail and the following to the letter.

but it still doesn't convince me that DIR can't except RB's and they will in time. First it was big no-no, now its a 'we're looking at it', i've heard this many times across many fields. Its the way tech diving is going in the long-term, GUE will go too. When it gets to a stage where DIR-GUE are the last fat boy being picked for football, then they'll join up.

5-10 years in my estimation.

and who would disagree with you? Most DIR divers I know stay aware of thwta is happening in the CCR world, becuase we know the future has to at least include them, even for DIR diving. The only reason we don't use them now is we don't believe the technology is in place to make them as safe as we would want them to be. In 5-10 years I would hope they would be.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:22 PM
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but all agencies give standard kit, standard gases, standard procedures its not a DIR thing exclusively. The exclusive DIR thing is thhe anal attention to detail and the following to the letter.

but it still doesn't convince me that DIR can't except RB's and they will in time. First it was big no-no, now its a 'we're looking at it', i've heard this many times across many fields. Its the way tech diving is going in the long-term, GUE will go too. When it gets to a stage where DIR-GUE are the last fat boy being picked for football, then they'll join up.

5-10 years in my estimation.
I suspect the criteria will be a little more considered than they are the "only agency that doesn't".

Afterall they seem quite happy with the tag of "only agency that does" in so many other areas.

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Old 02-05-08, 12:23 PM
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and who would disagree with you? Most DIR divers I know stay aware of thwta is happening in the CCR world, becuase we know the future has to at least include them, even for DIR diving. The only reason we don't use them now is we don't believe the technology is in place to make them as safe as we would want them to be. In 5-10 years I would hope they would be.
lets just hope in 5-10 years it doesn't turn into a your all doing it wrong with RB's and ours is the only way.......

and i pray that its not a Halcyon RB and nothing else.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:24 PM
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I deleted the post because I said something stupid out of childish anger. It's a long road to perfection so got to make a few mistakes
Oh I don't know I've never had a post deleted by Jay with a warning that I'll be out if I do it anymore. And before we talk age and beauty It would have been even less likely for that to happen when I was 19 and I'm probably more enthusiastic about everything now than I was as a teenager .

I guess some of us are just born perfect
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lets just hope in 5-10 years it doesn't turn into a your all doing it wrong with RB's and ours is the only way.......

and i pray that its not a Halcyon RB and nothing else.

how about we don't try to pick too many holes in it before it happens then

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your all doing it wrong with RB's and ours is the only way.......
has any DIR diver actually ever posted that outside of humour/windup. That sort of comment gets quoted all of the time as being the thing that winds people up, and I'm yet to to be pointed at a DIR diver who has said it, despite asking erveytime I see the comment!
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how about we don't try to pick too many holes in it before it happens then
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