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DIR: Discuss Primary reg clip in the Technical and Specialist Diving Forums forums: I note that some bods have a clip on the primary reg (long hose) `in case they have to switch ...

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Old 02-09-03, 08:33 PM
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I note that some bods have a clip on the primary reg (long hose) `in case they have to switch to the back up and can store the primary away`

I`m not pro or anti DIR but having a clip hanging off my primary reg seems a bit risky, never mind annoying

So what it all about???
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<font color='#0000FF'>Hi

Its not in case you need to switch to backup although that could happen.

Its more to do when using stage or deco bottles as you will not be using the primary and instead of leaving it dangling loose around your neck you can clip it off to the right D Ring so you know where it is and it won't come off and cause a hazard. Really whenever you are not using the primary it is good practice to clip it off.

Its not something you notice to be honest

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Like Andy said the small bolt snap on the long hose is there so it can be stowed when breathing stages or deco gas. &nbsp;Also, it's there so that the primary reg. can be clipped off when carrying the rig on and off boats, when de-kitting in the water and when assembling the rig. &nbsp;That way the 2nd stage primary doesn't drop on the floor.

The primary reg. must be clipped off whenever it's not being breathed.
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I do this with my long hose as well but I was always curious how it gets past the no metal to metal clips thing that DIR advocate, or have I misunderstood that bit?

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<font color='#810541'>The clip is attached to the reg hose by means of a looped over O ring. This gives you a break away in case of entanglement. This is the way I have interpreted it anyway.
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Quote[/b] (Phil Ennis @ Sep. 02 2003,22:54)]The clip is attached to the reg hose by means of a looped over O ring. This gives you a break away in case of entanglement. This is the way I have interpreted it anyway.
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Actually it isn't. Its tied on with cave line. The orings end up rotting and breaking just when you don't want them too. PITA. Cave line is better and cuts easy with a knife.

George et al used to do the O ring thing because they wanted a breakaway for rebreathers (as your buddy will want your bailout and it would be clipped off. The ONLY time you can't donate from your mouth) but I understand they have stopped doing that now probably for the reason given above.

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<font color='#810541'>AAHH, thanks Andy, I am behind the times with that one then. When I saw the O ring setup it made sense but I never thought about the perishing factor. I take it the cave line will have to be cut as opposed to a good tug and it breaks. What about the SPG then, as I have that rigged with an O ring aswell, should that be rigged with cave line?  




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Quote[/b] (Phil Ennis @ Sep. 02 2003,23:31)]AAHH, thanks Andy, I am behind the times with that one then. When I saw the O ring setup it made sense but I never thought about the perishing factor. I take it the cave line will have to be cut as opposed to a good tug and it breaks. What about the SPG then, as I have that rigged with an O ring aswell, should that be cave line aswell?  
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Yeah, cave line everything. The Oring rule applies equally to the SPG (in fact this breakaway thing never applied to the SPG). It will just perish (that's the word I was looking for) and then dangle for the rest of the dive being generally annoying (as danglies are )

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Quote[/b] (Mark Chase @ Sep. 02 2003,22:44)]I do this with my long hose as well but I was always curious how it gets past the no metal to metal clips thing that DIR advocate, or have I misunderstood that bit?

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I use a cable tie to conect my one but I wouldent like to try to cut that off in a hurry. There is no slack in the loop and it is pulled tight on the hose so it dosent slip.

I am a bit duebios about cave line what am I saying?, STRING &nbsp; &nbsp;to tie it on with as well. The O ring made sence but if you needed you primary reg in a hurry, it would be a case of hold on M8 I just get my knife. While he grabs the one from your mouth. Not good with a CCR

In the example given where the reg was in use in an ooa situation (CCR) I would have thaught it was dangerous.

The kneckles you wear arround your kneck in surgical tubing also perish but if you keep an eye on them and just replace them now and again they are OK. Why not do this with the O ring?

Glad to here that GI3 et-al admit to the odd error and develop new ideas. Maby there is hope for them yet &nbsp;

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