One piece webbing - no clips.

[Davey Willo]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Mark Chase @ Nov. 20 2003,10:37)]All I can say is that I like my set to be fixed tight against my back. I hate it when it flops about. I defie any one to get out of my harnis when its done up ready to dive, without first undooing a clip or friction grip.

We all like it tight against our back Mark, a sloppy rig is a nightmare, infact most people who take a fundamentals course who already have there harness fairly tight are initially dismayed that AG or some other instructor starts to make the harness even tighter.. this and other slight alterations aid in reaching the valves during shutdown without having to undo the waist buckle to do it..

There IS a knack of getting in and out of the rig, it's just finding it.. My rig is a tight as a jock's purse but I've found the knack of getting into and out of it without assistance, although this means not having my compass on my left forearm to achieve it... I fit the compass last after kitting or take it off first before dekitting...

Theres still places left on the fundy at Cap 26,27,28 November.... c'mon man get yer arris on it.. you know you want to.... it'd be worth the money to you just so you can argue the toss with AG about numerous issues.... imagine your delight/dismay (not sure which) if all of them were resolved..

Although this would curtail many of the debates on the DIR forum... lol...

Dave.

[siltmonkey]

On my Fundies course, Andy K set up the backplates for us, and I didn't find it too tight at all.  Then again, I had never used one before so I had nothing to compare it too.
I find the easiest way to get out is to slide one arm hand-first back through the shoulder strap - I can do this with a compass and a computer on my arm.  
Yet again, Dom's website illustrates this, but it's not currently working.

Mark, I'm interested in Kevin Gurr's story, and also his one about someone nearly strangling themselves with a wrapped long hose (read that in a quote somewhere) - do you have a link to it?


cheers

r

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Yet again, Dom's website illustrates this, but it's not currently working

Yeah, server issues - I'm chasing up what they think they're playing at

I've lost some of the stuff I did over the last couple of days, but it's been recovered. You should be able to access it again now..

[siltmonkey]

just as well - I think everyone uses it as a reference!

your backplate looks very low in the side photo - is that how you normally have it?



r

[Dominic]

Pretty near - heretic that I am, I actually have my harness fairly slack. It's not as bad as it looks - it rides up in the water, it only sits that low when standing around pre-dive.

I sometimes suspect that height plays a part too - when I have the base of the backplate at the right height, it's a few inches lower than a certain school of thought would say it should be. But when it's set to that height, it's too far above my waist, and becomes hideously uncomfortable..

[Lou]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I find the easiest way to get out is to slide one arm hand-first back through the shoulder strap - I can do this with a compass and a computer on my arm.  

I thought that if you could "chicken wing" your way out it meant that it was too loose?  I got that off some site when i was trying to set mine up.  Mind you I found that all the straps do is affect the height of the plate.  Too tight and the plate sits too high.  

Lou

[MATTBIN]

Whats with this setting it up malarky.
Attach cylinder(s) to wing via cam bands, pretty obvious where they go. Attach wing to body via straps. Stand up, secure straps/harness, jump in water.
What am I missing? Seriously, what's to setup.

Matt

[Lou]

Tried webbing your own harness Matt?  

Mine looked and felt like a dog's dinner at first.......remember that the shoulder strap lengths need deciding on (there's no adjustment on the fly as they are secured by weight retainers behind the b/p) and the position of buckles and d-rings to sort out.

It took me a good hour or so to set up dry.

Lou

[Dominic]

Coincidentally, I tried to adjust my harness underwater yesterday.

No dice - it didn't want to know. Take it apart and try again later.

Whether I'd have a better chance with my steel plate I don't know, but the alu one wouldn't budge.

[siltmonkey]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I thought that if you could "chicken wing" your way out it meant that it was too loose

Possibly.  But one of the ways I was shown how to get out of the harness is to put your thumb through a shoulder d-ring and pull the strap down that same arm.
This doesn't get the strap all the way off, but it does give you more room to put your hand and then your arm through the gap, which shrugs the strap off all the way.

It's not easy with a snug-fitting harness, you have to push a bit, but once you get the hang of it it's quick and dirty!



r