Halcyon

[Dinger]

Considering a Halcyon wing but am not sure what size to go for - the 40 or the 55 - I will be using twin 12ltrs and then side mounts - Al ones - but have heard that the 55 has the tendency to wrap itself around the tanks and be difficult to dump all the air - this true and will the 40 give enough lift with all the gear?
Cheers folks
Dinger

[Davey Willo]

I'm one of the ones who think the 55 is too big, it's not a real issue but why have more drag when it's not necessary, I've since tried my buddy's 40 Explorer and it felt great but then so does the 55..

The 55 does wrap around the tanks more than it should simply because it's designed for the big 104's that the yanks use which are actually bigger than twin 15's... apparantly they think our twelves are weenie cylinders.. because of the extra wrap around you have more loose wing, creating slightly more drag and also those higher bits of wing do hold air even though it's not a real issue dumping it, but why add any excess or complexity when you don't have to, if I had to buy again I'd most definitely go with a 40#, infact I've just recently posted on DIR-UK to see if anyone wanted to swap their 40# for my 55#.... unfortunately no replies

[Dominic]

There ya go Dinger - buy the 40, if it's too small, swap it with DW. Sorted!

[Davey Willo]

Now theres a man who speaks wise words......

[Dinger]

Dominic - a true business man there mate - think I might call dive dorset and see what they advise too.
Cheers folks
Dinger

[And]

<font color='#000080'>Hi

Being a dive shop UE will want to sell what they have in stock. Bear that in mind as they continue to recommend 55's despite the GUE instructors (andyG and AndyK) telling them they are too big. My advice is to know what you want and why BEFORE ever speaking to dive shop sales staff.

Andy

[Tibbs]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Gavin Yates @ Nov. 20 2003,13:33)]When I'm at 60m+ I'd rather have a little extra capacity.

Why do you need extra capacity at 60m+?

It looks like you have a membrane drysuit so your buoyancy wouldn't be any different.

Just curious,

Chris

[adam]

Hi,

I rarely venture onto here, but think I can help. I bought originally a 55 (as I was told this would be right!) I used it for some time, but found that as soon as I got my weight correct with whatever combination of cylinders (up to twin 12's)/stages/suit I was using, it would trap air. The only way to dump all the air with a 55 and twin 12's is to overweight.

I swapped to a 40, and the problem is solved-I can dump all the air from my wing, and carry the correct ammount of weight. On the other side, I can get well buoyant at the surface with full back cylinders and up to 6 stages and a scooter.Sad I know I thought I should try!

I still use the 55 for 18's etc.

If you are planing to use twin 12's, there is no doubt that the 40 is the correct wing.

Hope that helps

Adam

[malcolm smith]

Concur with Adam in that 55 was the received wisdom a while back------coincided with me buying my manta ray lookalike from underwater explorers..
Works for me with twin 12s but I am sure the smaller wing is the better option, plus, the 55 is all I know-----and have paid for

unless you are BIG cylinder twin diving, the 40 is likely the best buy.
Perhaps bungies would help with the 55.



Cheers, Malcolm.

[Davey Willo]

Bungies!!!!

[Davey faints outright, facebutting the tarmac in the process..... thanks malcolm you tw.....!!!]