Which bits of DIR to use

[Chardy]

<font color='#FF0000'>PADI have no problem with the long hose, I teach using the long hose,OPH and a wing. The dive briefing just has to stress which reg to take in an OOA situation and we usually have a trial run on land as well. They are shown the regular AAS and the LH as my divemasters us regular AAS.
AS for really out of air, I was and the reg in the mouth was taken as I knew where that was.

[Andy C]

There have been stories circulating of OOA divers fixating on the yellow reg (can't remember the source off-hand, but can probably find it is any-one wants) as most recreational agencies teach yellow octopuses. The two alternatives would be to either put your octo reg on the long hose and breathe/donate that, or change the cover on the backup for another colour.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]...as most recreational agencies teach yellow octopuses

Its for this reason that I changed the front plate of my tx50 for the front cover of my tx40 so im primarily breathing a more visible long hosed tx50 in my mouth; with my all black (less visible) tx40 octo necklaced for me.

Steve

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (daz @ Dec. 01 2003,10:55)]Mark,

Please expand :-

Why?,  I do all the time and can't see where the problem is.

Daz

The previous posts have covered it but I particularly noted PADI as apposed to the equaly problamatic BSAC because Porg has mentioned PADI training to be a consideration.

They want to see a yellow octo reg in the chest triangle so if she is teaching / assisting thats what she will have to have.

If someone did notice /go for the one around my neck it would pull out of the shock chord neck thing any way so not a big problem just a bit uncomfortable.

A few well aimed stabs with the sharp end of my crab podger should fend them off to a safe long hose distance &nbsp;

ATB

Mark Chase

[Digger]

Qualified divers fine, but teaching courses you might have problems. I know of a fair few employers who wouldn't let you use the rig to teach students. I try and be in similar kit to novices, and often bungee my hose instead of hog looping it to avoid confusion, and present a very similar profile face-on to what they've seen before/in the pool.

Swappping the covers, or having the more visible reg in the mouth when using a 2m hose donated from the mouth is something I try and do where possible, but I have a poseidon and apeks, so doesn't make for easily interchageable covers!!!

[Pink & Fluffy]

Hi I have just started down the DIR route and have just had a long hose fitted and my large green rubber case with &nbsp;all the gauges &nbsp;in it removed so have only the presure gauge in place of all that rubber clutter in a slim black holder, the depth gauge is now on my wrist and compass on a pull cord this seems much &nbsp;better it will take me a long while to get it all compleatly DIR.
Fiona.

[Davey Willo]

Fiona

You can't expect to do it all at once, it took me quite a while to slowly sell all of my old rig and exchange it for the correct kit, but believe me it will be worth it in the end..

Regards
Dave.

[Helen F H]

I have Dacor Viper regs - come in black and black only. &nbsp;I tell people if they want air, take what ever reg they want (they should ask and i will give, but hey when the shit hits the fan who bothers with being polite?) but if they take the one in my mouth i will bite....grrrrrrrrrr.

I like the sound of getting rid of the 3 in one console, but saying that, i have a pure contents gauge on my left and that is the only one i have got caught in something (bloody great chunk outta it from the Brummer gods dammit), but that could just be the law of sod.
I have &quot;octoclicks&quot; for my second reg, which i find work really well once you are used to them, i dont like the necklaces in comparison to them as they are a fanny about if you need to put a reg back into them, and get in a knot if you need to swap regs regularly.

[And]

<font color='#000080'>Hi

Swopping to a long hose is good advice although I don't agree it should be the first step, or rather I think there is an easier and more beneficial step. Changing to a longhose is questionable on an independants setup and also can be problematic if the chest area is cluttered and if the right hand side is obstructed. The most pertinent question is the one you have asked elsewhere. Are you going to manifold your twins and then invert or not? Once you've made that decision then you can think about spending money.

However, an immediate and cheaper option might be to get hold of JJ's book 'The Fundamentals of DIR'.

I suspect you may need to make a number of changes at once to get the most benefit or at least try a DIR config before hand if you know anyone who can oblige.

If its simply kit config you are looking at then this is a good start.

http://www.dir-uk.org/equipment_guide.doc

Hope that helps

Andy

PS Regarding the different colour regs thing pay no notice as to be DIR your buddy will have the same config, right?

[daz]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Mark Chase @ Dec. 01 2003,18:56)]

The previous posts have covered it but I particularly noted PADI as apposed to the equaly problamatic BSAC because Porg has mentioned PADI training to be a consideration.

They want to see a yellow octo reg in the chest triangle so if she is teaching / assisting thats what she will have to have.

If someone did notice /go for the one around my neck it would pull out of the shock chord neck thing any way so not a big problem just a bit uncomfortable.

A few well aimed stabs with the sharp end of my crab podger should fend them off to a safe long hose distance &nbsp;

ATB

Mark Chase

Fair enough, &nbsp;not sure about this whole having to use bcd/standard hose setup for teaching in OW. &nbsp;AIUI as long as the standards are not breached it should be possible.

I use a standard setup when working in the pool and a harness, long hose in openwater, but that is only DMing. &nbsp;I am thinking of the instructor route next year, but not happy with the idea of not using a long hose in OW. &nbsp;I would feel a hypocrite &nbsp;

I might seek clarification from PADI and post the response.

Daz

Sound like I ought to consider a podger, and I don't even like crab &nbsp;