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Quote[/b] ]Porg-They doppler sound them from the outside, not inside.
Trans-Thoracic (i.e. through the chest) Echocardiography (TTE) is only one of the methods used.
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Thanks for that HB. I'm shitting myself now!

Any idea what &quot;method&quot; the Vicky infimary uses in Glasgow?

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<font color='#0000FF'>Sorry Peter, they favour the Transrectal &nbsp;route
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Aye, very good!

May you jam yer fingers in the door


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Sorry, couldn't resist. But seriously, although the TOE is considered the 'gold standard', TTE is probably just as good for PFO visualising. Don't know which one the Victoria do, but I would have thought that they would have made sure you were aware of the risks involved during a TOE, so probably the non-invasive test there. There was a study not too long ago that detailed the risk vs. benefit of TOE tests for all divers, just in case, which IIRC concluded that it wasn't worth the risk.

There is another test, Transcranial Doppler, which is the most sensitive of the lot at detecting the presence of a shunt but this will pick up conditions other than PFO and is therefore only useful for ruling one out.

Good luck with the test. Let us know how it goes.
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<font color='#000080'>i only know a lot about the down the throat one cos a lot of the guys in our club got tested a while ago for research. &nbsp;Apparently they have video of them under the diazepam injection they give you.
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Quote[/b] (Porg @ Jan. 19 2004,18:02)]i love the DDRC, they got me narked at the dive show a couple of years ago - oh yeah and they gave me loads of advice when i got a dodgy post dive rash when my buddy decided to go whoooooosh to the surface.
<font color='#000080'>I did that research too .... Did anyone ever hear anything from it ?

I gave them my E Mail address, which hasn't changed since and they said they'd E Mail the participants with the results, but I've never seen anything.

The really heavy narcosis stuff was 'scary' ! &nbsp;
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<font color='#000080'>Oh i loved the narked stuff, but i emailed them and they hadnt really got that far with the research. &nbsp;I got the &quot;middle&quot; strength gas, which was great fun. &nbsp;The regs you breathed from were cleaned in a bucket of soapy water, and they blew bubbles which when you are narked outta your box is hilarious!

My ex-best buddy got the strongest one, he was fine for ages doing the tests (you had a lap top and had a series of basic mental tests to do that checked your coordination, memory etc), but suddenly he flipped out and spat the reg out, serious paranoia and screwed up in the head for 5 minutes! &nbsp;Apparently it happens if you are a big drinker (which he is - three pints a night, plus legless every friday/saturday night, and he aint a big bloke). &nbsp;

I was gutted when they wernt doing it again this year! &nbsp;The only worrying thing i found with my own reactions was that i knew i had done it wrong, but didnt give a monkeys. &nbsp;Scary.
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Dont worry about it, I once had to have a Lumbar Puncture. After that nothing else is as bad!

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<font color='#0000FF'>simon
old bsac medicals are still in use and some divers still get them done
and yes it dosnt matter about the organisation it still is a medical to dive
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