Yorkshire Divers

Ocean Explorers
Go Back   YD Dive Forums & Scuba Community > General Diving Forums > Dive Medicine & Fitness
User Name
Password

Welcome to the YD Scuba forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Dive Medicine & Fitness: Discuss So... I got the bends in the General Diving Forums forums: Well, as the title suggets..... It was fairly minor I believe as far as bends go at least, about 9 ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 08:16 PM
pressure tested pressure tested is offline
New Member
 

Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 95
pressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the sea
So... I got the bends



Well, as the title suggets.....

It was fairly minor I believe as far as bends go at least, about 9 hours in total of recompression in a couple of stints. This was at the end of September, I have not even considered diving since, but now I really want to dive again.

I cannot seem to attach the actual profile but will try to give an idea of the profile:

15m from 0 to 8 mins

dropping to 38m in 2 mins

staying at 38m for 4 mins

slowly up to 20m about 3 min to get there (deepstop on computer) staying for 5 min (more than required).

Taking 3 min to get to 12m, staying there for 8 min

Then 5 mins at 9m

Then moving very slowly up to 6m staying there for 25min

I know this maybe isn't as good as an actual profile pic but I think it gives some idea.


It is an unexplained bend, what steps do I need to take to dive again, is it even recommendable to dive again, I know there will be people out there with knowledge in this sort of area, as some of you will have been there.

Last edited by pressure tested : 06-04-08 at 08:34 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 08:42 PM
deepestandy's Avatar
deepestandy deepestandy is offline
Let there be LIGHT!!!
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 359
deepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm waterdeepestandy swims in warm water
Quote:
Originally Posted by pressure tested
It is an unexplained bend, what steps do I need to take to dive again, is it even recommendable to dive again, I know there will be people out there with knowledge in this sort of area, as some of you will have been there.
Sounds to me like a fairly serious dive that!

What did the people at the pot say, they would have probably given you a recommendation..? Either to layoff for a period of time or a referral to a diving doc. If you have been given the all clear just get back in the water and work yourself up to speed.

Andy
__________________
Having had a brief glance with the Dark side, Andy is now flirting with the Yellow side!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 10:27 PM
Steve S's Avatar
Steve S Steve S is offline
''Inverted uber stroke''
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Derbyshire as far away from the sea as you can get
Posts: 8,060
Steve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the waterSteve S is never out of the water
Hi PT,

I'm no doctor but I am a recovering bender, if you were not given any specific instructions and just told to lay off diving for 6 weeks, then start back doing shallow build up dives on the richest nitrox mix you can get away with and build your confidence up. Also make sure you are well hydrated and avoid exertion pre/during/post dive.

However if you have any residual symptoms left over from you DCS then see a diving doctor first.

Good luck.

Safe diving,
Steve
__________________
''Wow, l actually agree with the bearded blind crippled chicken shagger for once'' Diving Dud - 20/3/08
As everyone else is claiming a relationship to him, I hereby admit to being the Dud's younger, slimmer and better looking Northern Brother who was exiled at an early age due to embarrassing handsomeness.

DUE member and GUSAC Founder member
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 10:39 PM
Eeyore's Avatar
Eeyore Eeyore is offline
The Gentle Giant
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Washington T&W
Posts: 840
Eeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm waterEeyore is a scuba diver - warm water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve S
Hi PT,

I'm no doctor but I am a recovering bender, if you were not given any specific instructions and just told to lay off diving for 6 weeks, then start back doing shallow build up dives on the richest nitrox mix you can get away with and build your confidence up. Also make sure you are well hydrated and avoid exertion pre/during/post dive.

However if you have any residual symptoms left over from you DCS then see a diving doctor first.

Good luck.

Safe diving,
Steve
me too

not too make light of the issue, as steve said, take your time, get a few shallow dives in & then take it from there....

good luck mate
__________________
Aaran


99% Happy.........1% Blue........
No! I'm not an ASS....really!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 10:54 PM
Janos's Avatar
Janos Janos is offline
"Two Sheds"
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Live in Surrey, work in Westminster
Posts: 7,573
Janos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold waterJanos is a scuba diver - cold water
Bends can be due to many reasons.

1) Sometimes people make mistakes
2) Sometimes there is an unknown reason (PFO, dehydrated, seasickness drugs)
3) Sometimes you're just unlucky!

If you're unsure, talk to a diving doctor. Either way, I would take it slowly at first, start shallow, and build up your confidence.

And remember: It's meant to be fun!

Janos
__________________
You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves
www.hellfins.com/shed
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 11:02 PM
Captain Deco's Avatar
Captain Deco Captain Deco is offline
Only 3 apples tall.
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In the garden, polishing my porthole
Posts: 1,172
Captain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold waterCaptain Deco is a scuba diver - cold water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve S
Hi PT,I am a recovering bender
Steve


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
__________________
"We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."

"What difference do you think you can make, one single man in all this madness? If you die, it's gonna be for nothing. There's not some other world out there where everything's gonna be okay. There's just this world. Just this rock."

Never forget.

Support the troops

My You Tube Channel


DUE (Team Chaos) member.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-04-08, 11:05 PM
Garf's Avatar
Garf Garf is offline
Strokily Dokily Doo
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 5,580
Garf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fishGarf communes with fish
do whatever the doctor saiud at the time. they gave me 6 weeks.

if not sure, phone them they always glad to help
__________________
Garf
Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis.
www.teamfoxturd.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-08, 04:16 AM
DevonDiver's Avatar
DevonDiver DevonDiver is offline
Nitrogen Addicts Anonymous
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SE Asia
Posts: 126
DevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm waterDevonDiver swims in warm water
With any 'undeserved' bend, it may be worth getting a check for PFO. A quick glance at the BSAC Incident reports and the DAN Annual Reports will show many examples of well run dives that resulted in bends...normally with the closing comment that the diver in question was subsequently diagnosed and treated for PFO.

If PFO check is a negative, then just accept that sometimes we have a bad day. Maybe dehydrated, maybe too cold...or maybe something simpler....

Last year I did a 70m wreck dive with 25min bottom time. Me and my buddy completed the dive without incident - decompressing conservatively (according to Pro-Planner) using Nitrox32 and O2.

Immediately, upon leaving the water my buddy started coughing violently (a sort of asthmatic cough/choke). He peeled off his wetsuit to reveal a nasty skin bend that stretched from wrist to wrist and abdomen to neck. Within 5 minutes he was displaying weakness in the knee and gait alterations. This was followed by nausea and sleepiness....

He was treated on the boat with O2 for 4 hours, hydrated and closely monitored (by qualified Dive Medic Technician). Unfortunately, we were 18 hours from nearest land/chamber and diving in the Gulf of Thailand...so quick evacuation was a near impossibility. Luckily, the O2 treatment fully resolved his symptoms!

Following the incident, it was determined that the most likely cause for his bend was that he had been wearing his harness to tightly around the shoulders and that this would have prevented effective off-gassing from those limbs. As soon as he removed the harness post-dive, the nitrogen surged from the limbs into his torso.

I experienced no problems from this dive and, happily, my buddy was back in the water within a week.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-08, 08:55 AM
pressure tested pressure tested is offline
New Member
 

Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 95
pressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the seapressure tested paddles in the sea
Yeah thanks guys, the doctor at the chamber thought a PFO is unlikely as he said they are associated with people who have migraines. He also seemed to think snorkelling is a safe option and not to bother diving anymore. I didn't really think much about this or questioning it at the time, as I had very little desire to dive again, but now......

Knowing full well lots of people get DCI and dive again, I was wondering if there is any set procedure you go through. But it seems kind of random, I think I shall get hold of a diving doc later see what he says, if I need to be assesed or not.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-04-08, 09:30 AM
John63 John63 is offline
More Dives Than Posts
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bahrain & Saudi Arabia
Posts: 335
John63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkellerJohn63 is a snorkeller
If it was me I would want to be assessed for a PFO. If nothing else, it takes away an element of doubt.

As has already been posted, many "undeserved / unexplained " hits are the result of PFO and the only doubt about a test that you have is the doctor who said that because you don't have migraines then there's no PFO.

Get the test, then decide about diving.

Note - this is a personal opinion. I am not medically qualified.

Cheers, John
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Sponsored Links

Yorkshire Divers - RSS Feed
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:20 PM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Trademark and all rights reserved : © YD.com Ltd (2006)
YD.com Ltd (Registered in England - 05886696)
Other sites : Homemade Wedding Favours |Golf Clubs | New Premiership Football Kits | MP3 Portable Players | MP3 Players For Sale | Replica Football Kits | World of Fitness | Price Comparison Website
one UP

Forums Directory