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Old 03-06-08, 10:02 PM
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Exclamation could this be a bend?

three weeks ago i went diving at capers nothing majour just down with a new OW student who was doing her first OW dive since the course, there were four of us in total

but anyway we went down to 17.8 (max) meters for 29 minutes (so we all were within our diving limits) and ever since ive had a pain in my left elbow, (i probabley should say that i had a little pain in my elbow befor i whent down but didn't think anything of it )

its fine until i bend it back to touch my elbow or straighten it out fully extended... there are no visible marks except an old scar i picked up 2 years ago, i know this dosn't mean anything.

the pain is not increasing or decreasing it just is always the same when i bend or straighten it.

i am trying to get a doctors appointment but you know what GPs are like (the apointment is for an un diving related back problem) should have one for next monday :fingers crossed:

could it be a bend??

thanks for any help in advance

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A GP is probably not who you want. Phone a chamber or the RN doctor. Numbers are on this forum somehwere.

Seriously, we aren't doctors, call the pros.

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A GP is probably not who you want. Phone a chamber or the RN doctor. Numbers are on this forum somehwere.

Seriously, we aren't doctors, call the pros.

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What he said.

You are worried enough to ask, you should be worried enough to call the diving doc.
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A GP is probably not who you want. Phone a chamber or the RN doctor. Numbers are on this forum somehwere.

Seriously, we aren't doctors, call the pros.

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you're no fun,

standard procedure for posts along these lines is:

yes its is, no it isnt, ignore it, go see a witchdoctor,

then

Seriously, we aren't doctors, call the pros.
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Unlikely.

Did you do any physical work or lean on the elbow?
You may have overworked it.
The bend usually is accompanied by "weird feelings" like pins and needles, gen malaise.

There is a number of other medical conditions that would justify the pain.

Even if that would be a bend its too late to do anything...

Somehow I am sure you will be fine.

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Hi me,

there are no guarantees with DCS and diving and all dives are deco' dives irrespective of the very misleading no stop times it's a lottery every time we submerge.

If you hadn't had the pain before you started your dive I'd say get it checked out, but seeing as you did that means you have a dilemma as to whether you call the RN doctor for advice or not [the number is in the how to sticky at the top of this section] only you can really decide what to do.

I know what I'd do but that's not relevant

They will give you sound advice if you ring them though and making the call doesn't mean they will pot you.

Good luck.

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three weeks ago i went diving at capers nothing majour just down with a new OW student who was doing her first OW dive since the course, there were four of us in total

but anyway we went down to 17.8 (max) meters for 29 minutes (so we all were within our diving limits) and ever since ive had a pain in my left elbow, (i probabley should say that i had a little pain in my elbow befor i whent down but didn't think anything of it )

its fine until i bend it back to touch my elbow or straighten it out fully extended... there are no visible marks except an old scar i picked up 2 years ago, i know this dosn't mean anything.

the pain is not increasing or decreasing it just is always the same when i bend or straighten it.

i am trying to get a doctors appointment but you know what GPs are like (the apointment is for an un diving related back problem) should have one for next monday :fingers crossed:

could it be a bend??

thanks for any help in advance

liam
Hi liam

The pain of DCI DOES not respond to rubbing, limitation or discomfort in movement, therefore i would say that you do not have any DCI in your elbow, as you state that the pain only occurs when you bend or straighten the elbow.

The elbow is a common site of DCI and scar tissue will make you more susceptible to DCI in that area as it takes longer for nitrogen to offgas through the scar tissue.

The dive that you completed was well within any deco schedules, and the fact that you had pain before the dive suggests that it is just the same pain that you felt before the dive.

I hope this helps

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"No, it's not a bend" or "No, you should call the diving doc?"

I happen to know someone who recently went diving in Capernwray, as it happens, to a max depth of 18m, with a dive time of around 55 minutes (virtually the same profile) who I've seen the graphs of the dive and it was textbook, and ended up with a numb ankle/foot a couple of days later. (Note it's not me, btw).

Luckily he lived in London so he went to the London Hyperbaric Centre who potted him and the numbness disappeared.

They said it was a definite bend, so he ended up with three treatments after which he had 100% feeling back in his ankle and foot.

I also was of the 'no way - it can't be' as when we were talking about it and looking at the profiles I know I'd done more aggressive diving with him, but the diving doc said that it was!
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