I am at the beginning

[PrettyFishies]

For future proof regs APEKS are excellent and good for cold water diving. DIN is essential, don't get A Clamp. Going forward, a wing may be better than a BCD as it is also future proof if you eventually go down the twinset route.

Alternatively, you could alway buy a yellow box and save yourself all the money, training and gas hassle of open circuit.

The new evolution would be a fantastic starting rebreather. Since open circuit experience counts for very little when going closed circuit, it makes sense from a learning and long term financial perspective to go closed circuit as soon as you can. And the APEKS regs will do for bailout regs!

Regards

AnneMarie

[ahar]

Originally Posted by AnneMarie

Alternatively, you could alway buy a yellow box and save yourself all the money, training and gas hassle of open circuit.

The new evolution would be a fantastic starting rebreather. Since open circuit experience counts for very little when going closed circuit, it makes sense from a learning and long term financial perspective to go closed circuit as soon as you can. And the APEKS regs will do for bailout regs!

Regards

AnneMarie

All you need is £5k......

[Brass Monkey]

Originally Posted by AnneMarie

Alternatively, you could alway buy a yellow box and save yourself all the money, training and gas hassle of open circuit.

Come on AnneMarie not everyone out there has your kind of disposable income. I'm still looking to see if my balls are big enough to buy a torch like yours
Considering I’m a registered kit junkie and spendoholic that’s saying something.

Dave.

[warmwater]

Originally Posted by AnneMarie

DIN is essential, don't get A Clamp.

Scuse my ignorance but why is DIN "essential"? I'm managing fine on A!

Or am I .......??

[daz]

DIN is safer due to the captive 'O' ring.

Also DIN is the norm and more streamlined on twins. Less chance of anything catching on the back of the yoke etc...

Also most DIN regs are rated at 300bar (although there are a few 232bar din fittings around).

So generally - Safer and more adaptable for different configurations.

It's not essential but if buying new, buy right first time.

Daz

[PrettyFishies]

Hi Brass.

I had to relocate 300 miles for more work to fund my habit - so if you want to do it badly enough, you will!

Buy the torch, you won't regret it!

[David Martin]

Originally Posted by warmwater

Scuse my ignorance but why is DIN "essential"? I'm managing fine on A!

A-clamp regs aren't going to stop working....but DIN is a much better system

The O-ring is on the reg not the cylinder - you know it's maintained.
The O-ring is trapped, and can't extrude out.
The DIN screwthread is larger, and far more secure.
DIN is be rated upto 300bar, A-clamp to 230bar.
A DIN reg will always fit a DIN cylinder; whereas not all A-clamp regs are compatible with all A-clamp pillar valves.

We only have A-clamp, beacuse it was "here first". Many people with A-clamp later upgrade to DIN, I don't know of anyone who's gone the other way.

If buying new, DIN is the far superior option, and usually at no extra cost.
If you then go diving somewhere with only A-clamp cylinders, buy a converter that attaches to the DIN thread on your regs.

David

[warmwater]

Thanks David and Daz for quick and helpful responses. Now I know. Next time I buy regs, it will be DIN!!

[daz]

Originally Posted by warmwater

Thanks David and Daz for quick and helpful responses. Now I know. Next time I buy regs, it will be DIN!!

You might be able to get yours converted if you decide to twin up later on.

What make regs have you got WWD?

In the meantime, nothing wrong with A-Clamp... DIN are safer but A-Clamp is safe.

Daz

[Narked@50]

We have several members in Edinburgh, it may be worth posting a thread like "Edinburgh diver needs kit advice" and try to hook up with a coupl of them for a pint/chat.

James