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Old 20-06-05, 03:18 PM
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Possibly not, depends on phrasing etc, sometimes the other person is so entrenched in their beliefs, as much as I might be in mine, that the only way forward is to agree to differ, not always an easy decision to make in the heat of the moment when posting from work, sometimes we write things a bit quicker than we think, well I do anyway.

I hate to play the them and us card too but what I sometimes write on here gets taken differently in different parts of the country, Howard told me that, not quite a Global village.

I remember school, my kids went there!! Cheeky Essex boy, all the bloody same.

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Old 20-06-05, 03:26 PM
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We share a common hobby, this isnt the House of Commons you know.
Hey.... ENOUGH of the political references - I work at the House of Commons and we have feelings here as well

Frankly, I've been sickened by the attitude of some members of the board in recent days... although encouraged by some of the PM traffic which has been going on. I thought Andy's post was a great way of ending this nasty episode - but now people appear to be trying to use this very thread to justify why and when it is OK to attack people on a personal level. It is never OK to attack someone personally - debate is one thing, insults are another.

It is all very well for those who do have thicker skins or more confidence throwing up their hands and saying they don't know what all the fuss is about but one post did go as far as suggesting that someone was no longer welcome on a trip due to their stated views on this board. I am ashamed that I did not post at the time that this was unacceptable. Jeeeese - it's horrifying how quickly the board can turn on someone

The fact that some people can stand by and say it's OK if people are upset by what is written - because they deserved it or because they should have a thicker skin is pathetic.

If you are not bothered by crap that flys about on this board - then good for you - and I envy your self confidence. But understand that not everyone is as tough. I would be horrified if I thought that I ever caused anyone to be hurt by what I posted... to the point where they did not feel welcome here any more... and would want to take the opportunity to apologise.

Time to play nicely ... please

BTW - to save any more PMs - thanks for your kind words but I'm not the one who has been contemplating pulling out of a gig 'cos of all this crap - You won't stop me diving that easily

Can't remember who said it's time to go back to normal and start taking the piss out of Daz again - but, unsurprisingly, I'm all for that option
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Old 20-06-05, 03:44 PM
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Can't remember who said it's time to go back to normal and start taking the piss out of Daz again - but, unsurprisingly, I'm all for that option
Trouble is though Claire I'm fairly sure he was taller when I first met him, so I reckon all this piss taking is making him shrink like a de-hydrated prune, clourwise shouldnt that be a currant??

What the Hell, yeah lets do it.

Matt

ps could we have a symbol against our names for how much 'hammer' we are prepared to take, one we could modify ourselves in case we are having a hard day or something.

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Old 20-06-05, 07:42 PM
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TO be honest, I think everyone needs to understand that what they say can and will have repercussions in future. If someone turned round to me and told me they dive with ppO2 of 4.0 for their diving I couldn't let them on my trip. I don't need another visit to a coroners court. And in the same way I don't expect the right to book on to someone's trip who I've just red blobbed and slagged off, that would be like a child who doesn't understand the consequences of his actions.

The reason why YD is so well behaved (for the very large part) is that we meet up, and we dive. That's the difference. So many other forums have divers that never dive, jsut sit about talking about it then go off and dive in their isolated insular groups, and that's why we all end up doing things better, and becoming better divers. Because we're open to others viewpoint and way of doing things.

The other thing I think people have to be careful of is a bit of horseplay with your mates being seen by others as offensive. If I didn't know YDers the way I do I wouldn't say half of what I do. Please don't let anyone think they're not welcome, because they are. A lot has been said and done in the past (take some of the rows Chasey and And and Bob C have had) and they have happily dived on the same boats and even in the water together. I've had blazing rows which have come to strong words offline and I still dive with all of them.

As a wise man once said: It's the internet, not Dallas. Take it personally and it'll be the end of you.

Chill. And get your names down for gigs. Not you though Gledders, we don't like you.
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Oh, and it was me who wanted to all go back to taking the piss out of Daz again. He's used to it, and knows we mean it. A lot. Can't we just all resolve that every day we log on and whoever's name comes up first on the members online list is who's going to get the arse ripped out of them? That's how I do it
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Old 20-06-05, 07:49 PM
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Old 20-06-05, 09:06 PM
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Choice

It's simple. People choose to be offended or not.

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Old 20-06-05, 09:07 PM
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The problem is though that for us humans communication is 80% (or so!) visual, ie body language etc. Take away that as well as the audio, as on this forum, and there is a huge potential for misunderstading. A number of rucks I have watched develop on this board and others have developed purely due to communication breakdown and perceived slights and differences where none exist. This is obviously different to genuine personal attacks.

I wholeheartedly agree with this one mate, one reason I don't like MSN (or similar) chat and text messages. Often hard to put emotions or similar in and you can end up sending the wrong message completely.
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Old 20-06-05, 09:24 PM
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Oh, and it was me who wanted to all go back to taking the piss out of Daz again. He's used to it, and knows we mean it. A lot.
And there is the crux of it...

You do it because you've met me, know me and can then base your comments on fact rather than just making comments based on your perception of me from an internet persona.


..... hang on... I've just read what I wrote..

F*ck you and the horse you rode in on

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Old 20-06-05, 10:00 PM
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F*ck you and the horse you rode in on
You'll probably need a stepladder for that Daz!


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