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I Learned About Diving From That...: Discuss So you think its a good idea to dive a drysuit without training ? in the General Diving Forums forums: In hindsight it was a stupid thing to do, that is the WHOLE point of the post ! Well said, and ...

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Old 02-02-07, 11:37 AM
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In hindsight it was a stupid thing to do, that is the WHOLE point of the post !
Well said, and it's the whole point of this particular forum. Also, your experience seems to add weight to the theory that 'trust me' dives are not a good idea at all.

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Old 02-02-07, 11:40 AM
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hmm what you could of learned

1) it's not a good idea to try a ill-fitting drysuit. You want to keep air migration to a minimum.
2) Never go deeper than a few metres when trying life saving equipment for the first time... including bc/drysuit/regs whatever.
3). Sort out the intial problems, and don't keep continuing the dive, just because you think you have temporarily solved it. accident pit?
4). Get a dry suit orientation.
Hmm, Good points

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probably don't need to do a dry suit course tbh. after all it's only a wetsuit filled with a bit of tank air? you've already been trained in the use of a bc?
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That was followed up with a priv. message explaining what it meant :0. i don't advocate using a dry suit with no knowledge of how to use one. but neither do i think you need to pay to do a course to understand how to use it
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That was followed up with a priv. message explaining what it meant :0. i don't advocate using a dry suit with no knowledge of how to use one. but neither do i think you need to pay to do a course to understand how to use it
Agreed. Someone with experience and the use of a pool will be able to sort out any problems.

However, the dry suit courses do offer information about dry suits which may aid an undecided diver whether to go neo/trilam/other, neo/latex seals.

I did the PADI course years ago and I was the only one doing it. We went to Horsea and did two dives so I don't think the instructor made much money out of the deal.
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That was followed up with a priv. message explaining what it meant :0. i don't advocate using a dry suit with no knowledge of how to use one. but neither do i think you need to pay to do a course to understand how to use it
Hi Stephen,

It was your post, that spurred me into posting this. The follow up priv message, would not have been clear to everybody

I am not specifically advocating a paid for course. I always taught dry-suit informally starting in the pool But then I am one of those instructors who used to have a beard
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It was your post, that spurred me into posting this. The follow up priv message, would not have been clear to everybody

I am not specifically advocating a paid for course. I always taught dry-suit informally starting in the pool But then I am one of those instructors who used to have a beard
Used to? Why did you leave BSAC?

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Used to? Why did you leave BSAC?

No, no, no ! Just 'retired' from instructing at the moment.

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i hope you aint borrowed your instructors yellow box... ))
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Not sure, where you got this from ! This was an instructor, who I was familiar with and trusted.

In hindsight it was a stupid thing to do, that is the WHOLE point of the post !

Fully respect the original post. My own personal list of cock ups is encyclopedic. However it could not be left unsaid that the Instructor / Buddy who took you that deep on a first dry suit dive was grossly irresponsible.

All training is good training. All training is an experience worth having. However a dry suit is one of those things that can only me mastered by actual in water time. Its like riding a bike or ice skating. You really need to make those early wobbles and slip ups in a safe environment. 6m is more than risky enough to do that in. And some people can figure out the skills without the need to part with coin to get some one to show them.


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