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| I Learned About Diving From That...: Discuss 2 Examples of Why You Should Always Anaylse Your Gas in the General Diving Forums forums: These 2 have been lifted from DIRx as they provide salient examples of why people should analyse their gas and ... |
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| 2 Examples of Why You Should Always Anaylse Your Gas These 2 have been lifted from DIRx as they provide salient examples of why people should analyse their gas and mark their bottles accordingly before diving, even if they have filled the bottles themselves. Both examples make sobering reading. This first one is taken from a report by AG following a course he did with Richard L in Croatia in 2002 where someone had an ox-tox incident. Quote:
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Always analyse your gas before you get in. I know that Marc above said 'personally', but if you have a big exped/course with lots of bottles and time is of an essence, then there must be at least one independent checker of the fills to ensure that the filler hasn't made the mistake like the first example. Don't become complacent, especially if diving in a group or team. One day you might be breathing their gas and you will want them to have the correct gas otherwise you might have 2 casualties instead of one. Safe diving.
__________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Blog: Travels Underwater and Further Afar Son, you're going to have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming aircrew. You can't do both. The aircraft limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular aircraft. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no limits. |
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| Good Post. Just a thought (which I'm just double checking my brain's working today) - analysing the second tank would show 0% O2, right? (Much like when I did the balloon gas tank which also showed 0%)
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__________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Blog: Travels Underwater and Further Afar Son, you're going to have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming aircrew. You can't do both. The aircraft limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular aircraft. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no limits. |
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| G could i ask were these premarked up cylinders or were they marked after the fill? Graham
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| All analysis labels should be filled in after filling and prior to the dive - but for clarity we don't permanently mark back gas cylinders. Stage cylinder MOD markings are for in water ID purposes - there should still be an analysis label on them correctly dated, initialled and completed with gas percentages. HTH
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__________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Blog: Travels Underwater and Further Afar Son, you're going to have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming aircrew. You can't do both. The aircraft limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular aircraft. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no limits. |
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when you drop cylinders off you should tape the fill you need to the cylinder however if they are wet this label can fall off and be reattached to one of your cylinders but not the one that you put it on, they get filled and now you have a case of the MOD21 has 100% or what ever and the OXYGEN has 50%, (Example) Back comes diver picks up cylinders and doesn't test them because the tag he stuck on them were correct for the cylinders and away they go they obviously did pay any attention to the fill tape if there was one placed on it, bingo here we have the problems described. I carry an Anolox tester but how many don't! Its easy to get to the till and them say 1x 100% and 1x 50% cost is....... strengthens the idea that you have the correct fills, i once watched some "DIVERS" test a trimix by sucking on the reg and say yeah thats OK!! EDIT: i dropped of my back gas for a 15/55 fill and ended up with a 55/15 fill??? good points though and strengthens the idea to test the mix I was just curious to the history of the incident Graham
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| Sorry about the egg sucking but all I had was the post which was put up on OD from the Quest list and I didn't understand if what you were asking was what Clare answered. To me anyone who doesn't test the contents when they pick the cylinders up is somewhat daft. In addition, all the places I have been to, you have to write the cylinder numbers down on the check sheet from the filler and sign the analysis before you can take the cylinders away. Obviously this won't be a player if you do your own fills. I have also heard about people testing He content by the sound of their voice or the sound it makes when the gas leaves the valve, but the person I know about checks the O2 content (which is the bit most likely to kill you) with a sensor and marks up accordingly. Regarding your 55/15 fill, I hope you gave them sh*t and asked for a refill? Regards
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__________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Blog: Travels Underwater and Further Afar Son, you're going to have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming aircrew. You can't do both. The aircraft limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular aircraft. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no limits. |
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