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| I Learned About Diving From That...: Discuss Silted up in a wreck at 30m in the General Diving Forums forums: I've been debating posting this for some time. After reading Garfs very frightening post about SMS Markgraf I was ... |
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__________________ What if the world was out of trouble, What if the world was out of pain Would it be a world thats worth living in, Without anything, Thats worth a sin What if the world was out of hope, Would you find a place where you belong You said to yourself that you'd never make it that far, And the mountains too high, The answer is ................ __________________ |
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| Glad your both ok good read thanks for posting
__________________ My motto Love like you've never been hurt, Work like you don't need the money and F*ck like your on film |
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| Great post. For the sake of any one who ever gets them selves in this situation. Always have a spool with you and before trying to search for an exit, tie it off somewhere at your starting point then tie into a second location close to the first. This will give you a directional reference. Then go search using memory of the wreck if possible but if not then use something tangible like a bulkhead on one side. You have to make a plan. For example: Did you enter from the top or the side? if the top go to the ceiling to start your search. If you are 100% convinced you have gone way past your original entry point best thing is to try another 4-5m because 10m feels like 100 in a silt out. If still no joy return to your start point and search again with another tangible reference. Use your double tie to guide you in a different direction to the first search. If lost like this minutes feel like hours and inches feel like feet in terms of distance traveled. If your aware of this then it can help reduce the stress. The good divers will tell you, you should never enter an area out of the daylight zone without laying a line. This is absolutely correct. However in the world of Merphys law even the most simple swim through can accidentally end up as a problem. Whilst its understandable (but still wrong) to have not laid a line, it is totaly unforgivable not to have a search spool. ATB Mark
__________________ Mark, dispite the fact your a Heron shagging tosser I agree with you , Steve S 10/04/08 ATB as most people will tell you, means Always Talking Boll@cks. My responses to threads should be treated accordingly All The Best Mark Chase Screw the force Luke, use the VR3 Last edited by Mark Chase : 03-04-08 at 03:33 PM. |
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| Thanks Mark, very useful advice, especially the second tie off. Thanks to all who have replied. |
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Nick .... great story and thanks for sharing the experience Mal |
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| Because I teach diving in a tropical location, I rarely found an opportunity to demonstrate to students what zero viz felt like. A few months ago I found one single nasty silty patch at 30m. Great! Nowadays, my Deep and Wreck students are treated to a great introduction to the throat clenching, panic inducing zero viz. My logic is that anyone wanting to dive wrecks or dive deep should have felt what it is like not to be able to see your dive computer when you hold it against your mask (and no, taping up a mask and working line drills just doesn't have the same effect). What I do is get all my students knelt on the bottom in a circle, holding each others tank valves. I then sit in the middle of the group and scoop up big handfuls of silt...within seconds viz in the immediate area (inside the circle) is zero...it goes black. We sit and wait and within 90 seconds it will be clear again. From this demo, I always get a positive response from my students....along with the promise that they will never, ever enter a wreck without a line. Zero viz is amazing and can be terrifying...and you can never guess at how much so until you've experienced it yourself. |
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| Nick, Thanks for that, must admit, it's my ultimate nightmare and one reason I don't even like swim throughs - I am going to do a wreck course at some stage but won't be doing any penetrations until I do.
__________________ Marty. My ignorance amuses me....(that ignorant git on Tomb Raider) |
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| Billy Deans used to send guys wanting to do trimix to a cave course before training them. You cant beat proper OHE training. Lost line, lost buddy, search spool, line laying, tie off points, environment awareness etc. For instance, you might find a shaft or entrance on a wreck that is narrow/shallow but navigable on way in, but on way out the piece of metal sticking up/down/out is now angled towards you waiting to snag on anything you have. Good report. Good effort. |
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| Excellent post. I found the Akka to be a very dark, oppressive dive and a silt out inside it must have been terrible. I too have found Cave/Cavern training a big help in learning how to penetrate wrecks (not that I have done a great deal of either but enough to know the training is worth it). |
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