BSAC PIE/TIE week after next

[Woz]

Right I have my combined PIE/TIE the week after next at Stoney. My TIE presentation subject is "Water Pressure". So- any hints about good demos and content?

And any PIE hints too?

[jptaylor9]

Originally Posted by Woz

And any PIE hints too?

Time management is key, you only have 45 mins. Don't take 30mins on briefing & kit checks

You'll fail if you thought to have:

• Put students in danger
• Not taught anything

Have plans for all the likely lessons prepared before hand.

You'll most likely get the lesson you least want to teach, I did

[Woz]

Originally Posted by jptaylor9

You'll most likely get the lesson you least want to teach, I did

Especially as Pete Church is bossing it and I know him quite well.

I bet I get towing with AV. Not that I mind teaching it.

[RickG]

Originally Posted by jptaylor9

You'll fail if you thought to have:

• Put students in danger
• Not taught anything

• Not broken the task down into as many steps as humanly possible
• Not corrected any faults

The last point is particularly important to watch for when teaching experienced divers as they tend to think "oh look, he's done a mask removal", then do it their own way rather than the way you just demonstrated!

As jp said, the best thing you can do is have lesson plans for EVERYTHING worked out in advance - when I did the combined event last year I only got 30 minutes from the end of the TIE to plan my lesson, drive to the beach, eat my lunch and assemble my kit :o

[Woz]

OK I have all the lesson plans laminated already for everything I could think of.

I don't think I'll have trouble passing but it would be nice to do a proper job.

[Scuby]

Actually passing isn't actually very difficult. Doing a perfect job isn't easy though, but they're not looking for perfection - just that you've acutally taught what you were supposed to and not killed anyone! Not really sure how to give tips on doing it really really well - passing is easy, just follow the 4 criteria they're looking for (and if they don't do anything wrong, try to find something you can correct them on anyway...). Suppose the rest just comes with practice and preparation that makes the lesson that bit more interesting... Oh, and make sure you break everything down into the smallest steps you can possibly think of, they seem to be obsessed with that for some reason, maybe they are all used to teaching people who are really really really really slow learners... :o\

Originally Posted by jptaylor9

You'll most likely get the lesson you least want to teach, I did :D

Ah yes, bloody compass *grumble grumble* spacking around on the surface because they *grumble* think actually going underwater is too dangerous for the first lesson *grumble grumble*.
Had to do that for both my OWIC and my PIE - most pointless lesson ever :O(


Good luck anyway Woz!

David

[Paul Beal]

Woz,

I am currently working my way towards qualifying as an examiner, I have my first "live" event weekend after next (quiver!!)

You need to remember the 4 essential criteria for a practical lesson

It has to be safe
It has to be technically correct
It has to be effective
It has to be progressive

These handily make the word STEP! You basically have to hit all these criteria to pass. There are then some less essential criteria which help you to a merit, such as a SEEDS brief, a REAP debrief, lesson full of demo/do, correct time management.

My advice to you is to make sure you have the potential lessons planned so when you get your lesson assigned you can dive straight into your notes and transfer it to your slate. Use SEEDS (in any order, as long as it is all there) to do a briefing and make sure you demo everything and then get your students to mimic as much as possible i.e kitting up, buddy check, entry, exit etc. Use a shot line for control on the surface, during ascent and descent and as a datum underwater. Make sure you keep everyone together underwater and remember to refer to your slate so you do not forget steps. Keep your students close and ensure demos are seen by all students, "double demoing" where necessary. Make sure you correct any faults your students make as this shows effectiveness. Don't worry about getting to the end of your lesson, just put anything outstanding in the preview section of your debrief.

All in all, relax and make sure you are prepared! Good luck, I hope you do well!

Paul

[Paul Beal]

Originally Posted by Scuby

Actually passing isn't actually very difficult. Doing a perfect job isn't easy though, but they're not looking for perfection - just that you've acutally taught what you were supposed to and not killed anyone! Not really sure how to give tips on doing it really really well - passing is easy, just follow the 4 criteria they're looking for (and if they don't do anything wrong, try to find something you can correct them on anyway...). Suppose the rest just comes with practice and preparation that makes the lesson that bit more interesting...

Yep, 4 essential criteria

Originally Posted by Scuby

Oh, and make sure you break everything down into the smallest steps you can possibly think of, they seem to be obsessed with that for some reason, maybe they are all used to teaching people who are really really really really slow learners... :o\

I am not sure it is an obsession but it prevents students getting confused, or worse having forgotten something they need to know for a particular skill. Also, remember that you are in a false situation and breaking the skill down lets us as examiners know that you are aware of the learning process.

Originally Posted by Scuby

Ah yes, bloody compass *grumble grumble* spacking around on the surface because they *grumble* think actually going underwater is too dangerous for the first lesson *grumble grumble*.
Had to do that for both my OWIC and my PIE - most pointless lesson ever :O(


Good luck anyway Woz!

David

I am not sure pointless is the word, more like the ones everyone hates teaching. This is why we usually include AV and compass on OWICs and they often creep into PIEs too. People hate teaching them and so they are taught badly. Both AV and compass are actually very easy lessons if you think about exactly how you perform the skill and then break it down into bite size chunks.
Paul

[Janos]

I'm sure you know a lot of this already. But I did my TIE and PIE last year and my 2p's are:

For the PIE, in no particular order.

1) Don't try and do too much. Tow and AV in one session is hard to do in one session if you are progressive.
2) Be progressive - you can't have too many small steps.
3) Make sure you can do the skills yourself!
4) Be prepared - have laminated sheets (I can send you mine to check against if you want but it's good to make your own)
5) For extra brownie points, teach at every opportunity: This is how we put our fins on. This is how we kit up. This is how to do a giant stride etc etc.

For the TIE

1) Don't try and do too much
2) Have good visual aids
3) Involve the class - try and get people up on their feet and doing stuff. For my lesson "Deep diving" I took one part (methods of doing decompression stops) and I had everyone reeling off a 'shotline' which they got back to and ascended on to a trapeze which 'drifted' out the classroom. Great fun. The rest of "deep diving" was covered the previous week and the next week.
4) Check for transfer. Both during the presentation and at the end. My last slide / part of the presentation is a summary screen where you can say 'we talked about this and what's this?" and then we talked about this and what is?

Oooh, and remember to revise for the exam.

Laters,
Janos

[Chris Bone]

All good advice best advice i've seen is involve the class if nothing else moving them around the classroom takes time, I did my IFC, OWIC, TIE & PIE last year and your right you will get the one lesson you really dont want. I dont know how the NI's know but the do.