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Old 21-06-05, 06:09 PM
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Teaching with Nitrox

Hi guys,

This is probably a really stupid question and someone will just reply with stop being a tw*t, but here goes.

If i'm on nitrox as an instructor, have there ever been any complications arising from doing AAS skills with a student who isnt nitrox trained? I know in a real situation it won't matter but just from the training side does it matter.

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Old 21-06-05, 06:12 PM
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Never heard of anything, neither can I think of a reason why there should be a problem.

Have you tried Jim Watson at BSAC Tim?
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Old 21-06-05, 07:54 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem - after all you're breathing it & it's not causing you a problem.

As you say, in a real situation you wouldn't think about it.

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I know that with the SAA it's no problem. If it's safe for you to breath then it's safe for them to breath.
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I wouldn't even give it a second thought at the depths and amount of time they will actualy be breathing it.

Chill out and have a beer, but not before training.

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I always dive on Nitrox so i always have a student breathing Nitrox during AAS drills.

No problems, MoD would be the only one and if you are below that you should not have an Instructor ticket

I think if you spoke to any BSAC National Instructor the answer would be JFDI
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Thumbs up Agreed...

Whenever possible, I always dive/train on Nitrox...

Training - especially if doing CBLs or anything likely to involve repetitive descents/ascents or dubious ascent rates

As a previous poster said, if you can't hold the depth you shouldn't be instructing. In any case, what mix would you be using to end up with a problems. And, if you COULD get a problem (if everything went t**s up, then what happened to the risk analysis)

There were "rumours" (urban legends?) that BSAC want trainee ODs to dive on 36%, trainee SDs on 27% and when you become a DL you could dive on that dangerous stuff called "air"...

Finally, are you sure an NI would know what JFDI meant
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Finally, are you sure an NI would know what JFDI meant
I'm not a NI (yet god help you all if i do) but i can guess that JFDI is Just F*cking Do It.

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Not sure what the 'official' line is but I do it all the time. Thinking about it I can't see that there's a problem (unless you have a really, really, really, long hose)

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BUT when I did my TDI course last year the Nitrox Instructor told me that the Japanese when they do their Open Water/BSAC Novice or equivalent do the Nitrox course as well. Whilst doing my BSAC Novic 1 & 2 in 1995 I don't think I could have coped with all the maths at the time (plus a confidence thing) but TBH if I was an instructor I'd consider doing the Nitrox course after the basic courses before doing any more courses (i.e. AOW/Rescue/Bsac Sports). BTW I hate courses. Which is why I'm not an instructor. I just dive with one. Easy life
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